Lenso 13 x 7.5 wheels with 225 50 13 hoosiers.

[joshh]

I did a search and nothing came up on "Lenso".

I'm going to modify a couple things to fit the Lensos on the car.


1. The top edge of the brake dust shield needs to be cut down some.
2. A bit of grinding on the corner of the steering ball joint.
3. A spacer is needed to keep the tire away from the shock.

Anyone seen these used on an E30? The grinding on the ball joint wont effect the strength of it.

[erik325i]

Why would you do this?

I thought that a 13" rim couldn't fit because it couldn't clear the brake caliper.

[DanGillan]

if you run long enough studs, and can space them out far enough, they will fit. they may stick out past the fenders, and may rub under load. i suggest running a slightly undersized tire and spacing it out about 28mm.

[joshh]

Thanks.
The 225 50 13 is way undersized. The OD is 21.7" as opposed to the stock 24". So rubbing of the fender wont happen. A 225 45 13 can also be used which has an OD of 20.7".
This would only be for autocrossing.
It lowers the center of gravity, lowers the gearing (E rear end and tranny) and each corner only weighs 28.5 lbs

[alex]

Thanks.
The 225 50 13 is way undersized. The OD is 21.7" as opposed to the stock 24". So rubbing of the fender wont happen. A 225 45 13 can also be used which has an OD of 20.7".
This would only be for autocrossing.
It lowers the center of gravity, lowers the gearing (E rear end and tranny) and each corner only weighs 28.5 lbs

So how many times have you autocrossed already?

If you are going to put yourself through all this trouble to run these tiny wheels and tires, I'd suggect going with 12", that way you'll really get yourself trained for all the f'ed up situations you will encounter later on.

Grinding on suspension component it the last thing I'd do to make something work. If you really like those wheels I'm sure they make them in 14" or 15".

Also what class are you running, with what club?

[joshh]

Hey thanks for the sarcasm. Sounds like you may be one of those guys that seems to think an 18" wheel with a 245 tire is the best thing. Well it isn't. I hope you take that.

I have yet to run these on the E30.

Doesn't sound like very much trouble at all??!!
And what "fed up" situations do you think WILL happen??
"Grinding a suspension component" Thats a broad statement and really doesn't mean much. And its a steering component. Grinding down a ball joint outside corner 1/16th of an inch wont effect its strength.

DSP SCCA local. And a few other local clubs.

[BimmerToad]

I say go for it if you can make them fit. You'll make the car look kinda funny, but you'll really kill the wheel assembly weight, lower the car without any adverse geometry changes, make the gearing more suitable for AutoX, and you'll still have the grip of a 225 hoosier :D

[joshh]

Thanks, I'll keep this thread up to date.

[nando]

why go through all that trouble when 14" basketweaves are cheap, light and they also fit the car correctly?

[nickmp0wer]

my dad has some 13" panasports on his 7, those would fit would they?

[trent]

Sounds like you may be one of those guys that seems to think an 18" wheel with a 245 tire is the best thing.

LOLLL...you clearly don't know Alex and that is one of the fastest autoxers in the states, oh yea, and i think he DOES run a 245 Hoosier ;) However, I think he is on to something larger :)

[trent]

why go through all that trouble when 14" basketweaves are cheap, light and they also fit the car correctly?

it makes too much sense...

duh

[erik325i]

This would only be for autocrossing.
It lowers the center of gravity, lowers the gearing (E rear end and tranny)

Joshh, why don't you just put tires with a shorter sidewall on a set of basketweaves. This would pretty much do the same thing without having to grind away at stuff. It would lower the center of gravity, lower the gearing, plus you would have a shorter sidewall.
Just a though...

[alex]

Hey thanks for the sarcasm. Sounds like you may be one of those guys that seems to think an 18" wheel with a 245 tire is the best thing. Well it isn't. I hope you take that.

I have yet to run these on the E30.

Doesn't sound like very much trouble at all??!!
And what "fed up" situations do you think WILL happen??
"Grinding a suspension component" Thats a broad statement and really doesn't mean much. And its a steering component. Grinding down a ball joint outside corner 1/16th of an inch wont effect its strength.

DSP SCCA local. And a few other local clubs.

You are welcome, anytime. ;) Actually I think 285 is better on 18" wheel, 245 is more appropriate for 16 or 17.

FYI, without getting into too much detail, suspension components have been heat treated to obtain desired strength and durability. By grinding on it you can change up the structure of the metal and it will become soft and then you are very likely to be in for some surprises when shit starts breaking.

In DSP you can swap rear ends if you are after acceleration, which, in fact, will have much greater effect on acceleration.

Here's a f'ed up situation for starters:

http://e30.us/jschmidpics/OVR-4-12-2003-DS-54-Close-up-Descriptions-B.jpg

[DanGillan]

DONT GRIND ANYTHING, fucking space out the wheels about 28mm, your car will look like an autocross miata. everything will be ok, they will sit outside of the brakes and suspension componenets. so what if it looks like a mexican autocross miata. its atuox only. try it. we did it on a car and it was awesome, the wheelbase ended up being 3 inches wider than an e36 m3.