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  • TobyB
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2011
    • 5168

    #31
    but you can't really run a 225 on a 7.
    dear God, don't tell Pro3 that...

    ...although I agree. 205's have less sidewall wrap.

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    • Earendil
      E30 Mastermind
      • Jun 2009
      • 1662

      #32
      Originally posted by TobyB
      dear God, don't tell Pro3 that...

      ...although I agree. 205's have less sidewall wrap.

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      Is there not also a structural difference between an R888 and say an RS3?
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      • Bimmerman325i
        R3V OG
        • Dec 2007
        • 6854

        #33
        Originally posted by Earendil
        Is there not also a structural difference between an R888 and say an RS3?
        just about everything.... R comps have stiffer sidewalls for starters.
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        • BenM
          R3VLimited
          • Nov 2006
          • 2184

          #34
          +1 to everyone's recommendation about 205/50-15 or 225/45-15.

          I've been running 235/40-17s for the past 3yrs (not by choice due to E36 5-lug) and even though they provide a great steering feeling, you loose some of the "nimble" feeling that the E30 is known for. I'm still on a set of Bridgestone RE01 that are almost done and then I'll be switching to 235/40-17 G-Force R1
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          • M-technik-3
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            • Oct 2003
            • 18946

            #35
            Nearly every E30 at lemons was running 15's as well.
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            • phenryiv1
              No R3VLimiter
              • Jul 2009
              • 3246

              #36
              Bumping this up to ask a followup question...what about the R888s? I have found some new R888s in a 205/50/15 and from the looks of wheelhop's pic it seems to fit well on a 15x8 while saving me about $150 on this first set of tires.

              Dropping $1000+ on the initial investment is a bit steep. I was hoping ot get it around $800 but that isn't going to happen unless I get something like RT615Ks and Drag wheels in a 15x7.

              I can get TRM C1s in 15x8 and R888s for about $850-ish.
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              • djjerme
                R3V Elite
                • Sep 2010
                • 5082

                #37
                For track days, the 888's are fine. You can probably find quite a few little used 888's in that size for cheap since Spec Miata and Spec E30 have gone to the new Toyo RR for this year. The PRO3 guys are sunsetting the 888 as well (though ours are 225) since nobody likes them.

                Ideally, look for a used set. When they are new and unshaven, 888's are kinda slippery IMHO. If you can find a set with a couple heat cycles, you should be able to get a full set for hella cheaper and they will probably feel better than a brand new set.
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                • phenryiv1
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 3246

                  #38
                  Originally posted by djjerme
                  For track days, the 888's are fine. You can probably find quite a few little used 888's in that size for cheap since Spec Miata and Spec E30 have gone to the new Toyo RR for this year. The PRO3 guys are sunsetting the 888 as well (though ours are 225) since nobody likes them.

                  Ideally, look for a used set. When they are new and unshaven, 888's are kinda slippery IMHO. If you can find a set with a couple heat cycles, you should be able to get a full set for hella cheaper and they will probably feel better than a brand new set.
                  I found a new set for $400. Also had a shaved set available. Seemed fairly reasonable. Is shaving to 3/32" losing too much usable life?
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                  • kts
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 753

                    #39
                    Originally posted by phenryiv1
                    I found a new set for $400. Also had a shaved set available. Seemed fairly reasonable. Is shaving to 3/32" losing too much usable life?
                    For HPDE I'd probably run them unshaved to get more use out of them. You're not fighting for those extra hundredths of a second like you would be in a competitive event like an autox/wheel to wheel/etc

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                    • unevolved
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 714

                      #40
                      Yeah, for an HPDE, shaving tires is almost literally throwing money away.
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                      • JRKOUPE
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Dec 2004
                        • 3159

                        #41
                        Originally posted by phenryiv1
                        I found a new set for $400. Also had a shaved set available. Seemed fairly reasonable. Is shaving to 3/32" losing too much usable life?


                        I didnt read the whole thread..just skimmed it.....so IM sorry if I missed a detail...but...

                        I track my e30..for over 5 yrs...I run 7's on 225/50(RA1).....I just dont like the car's looks on 205's.....lol.....Id buy 8's now if I were looking....

                        car is nimble.....can place it any where.....and tires last me like 30-40 heat cycles...ez...Ive seen a shave extend tire life!...less heat/chunking

                        I shave them all the time!.....and I drive on them to events. Dont do 3/32..I do a FAT 4/32.....

                        not shaving can lead to chunking and just bad tire wear...and the squirm will be noticeable.

                        I love this forum.....but often some of the info given is just not correct......

                        all in all most didnt like the 888's...but for DE they are fine...
                        I love sitting down and just driving!

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                        • yeaseth
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 302

                          #42
                          trm's 15x8 with 225s work great
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                          • Danny
                            Moderator
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 14216

                            #43
                            I don't know why you're shaving tires for an hpde.

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                            • phenryiv1
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 3246

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Danny
                              I don't know why you're shaving tires for an hpde.
                              I'm not planning on it.
                              Patrick Henry

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                              • JRKOUPE
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 3159

                                #45
                                shave....or dont buy r tires...

                                unshaven r tire...is a RAIN tire.....
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