Tire pressures - rivals and Z2s

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  • BAR51
    Advanced Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 105

    #1

    Tire pressures - rivals and Z2s

    Does anyone have good information about what tires pressures to use on 205/50x15 tires for a track e30 325i weighing about 2100-2200lbs? I had a lot of problems getting the rivals to stick with hot pressures between 36 and 31lbs and wonder if it was too low. The Dunlop Z2s seemed OK at about 33lbs hot, but love to hear other opinions.
  • tinkerputzer
    E30 Addict
    • Jun 2008
    • 508

    #2
    I don't have useful info on those tires, but have you tried chalking them to see how much they are rolling over?

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    • L8 apexr
      Wrencher
      • Dec 2010
      • 226

      #3
      Grassroots mag has all the answers in this months tire test,can't remember everything but don't run 36psi in the ZII's.

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      • Nsquared97
        E30 Mastermind
        • Sep 2010
        • 1656

        #4
        IMO your best bet is to get a pyrometer (preferably probe type) and take inside/middle/outside temps, try to make them as even as possible with camber/tire pressure. Usually about 10 degrees higher on the inside is best.

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        • tinkerputzer
          E30 Addict
          • Jun 2008
          • 508

          #5
          Originally posted by L8 apexr
          Grassroots mag has all the answers in this months tire test,can't remember everything but don't run 36psi in the ZII's.
          Link to article?

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          • brodee
            R3VLimited
            • Jan 2004
            • 2914

            #6
            I run the Rival in 225-15. At autox I use 35 front 33 rear.

            "Modern cars may be able to outgun it, but few can match its character, its motorsport spirit, and the way it plasters a huge grin on your face at any speed." - Patrick George

            1988 M3 - Track Rat
            1989 325iC M50 Vert
            1989 325i Coupe
            1991 318is
            1995 318ti Club Sport
            2006 330i e90
            2008 Tundra Crewmax

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            • JGood
              R3V OG
              • Jan 2004
              • 7959

              #7
              Depends on too many factors to get info from other people, unless you're running a showroom stock car at the same ambient temps as someone else running the same car.

              As others mentioned, inner/middle/outer temps are the best way to figure it out.

              As an example, I had to run really low pressure in the rear of my old track e30 to get enough temp in them to get traction. It was fully gutted, and without a full cage, extremely light in the rear. Someone with a spece30, even though it's the same suspension and tires as mine, would be running higher pressures in the rear.
              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
              e30 restoration and V8 swap
              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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              • brodee
                R3VLimited
                • Jan 2004
                • 2914

                #8
                If you don't have a temp gauge handy mark them with shoe polish or chalk on the triangles. Wear should come down to the top of the triangle. If it goes past it, add more air, nor far enough let some out.

                "Modern cars may be able to outgun it, but few can match its character, its motorsport spirit, and the way it plasters a huge grin on your face at any speed." - Patrick George

                1988 M3 - Track Rat
                1989 325iC M50 Vert
                1989 325i Coupe
                1991 318is
                1995 318ti Club Sport
                2006 330i e90
                2008 Tundra Crewmax

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                • markseven
                  R3V Elite
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 5327

                  #9
                  Originally posted by brodee
                  If you don't have a temp gauge handy mark them with shoe polish or chalk on the triangles. Wear should come down to the top of the triangle. If it goes past it, add more air, nor far enough let some out.
                  This is a "do I need more negative camber test". Tire pressures are a little more proprietary / unique, per JGood's post. IMO.
                  I Timothy 2:1-2

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                  • JGood
                    R3V OG
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 7959

                    #10
                    Originally posted by markseven
                    This is a "do I need more negative camber test". Tire pressures are a little more proprietary / unique, per JGood's post. IMO.
                    I'd agree, if the temp equipment is available. But after some more consideration after my last post, 'the chalk method' / 'use what other guys are using method', may indeed be the best way for the causal autocrosser/HPDE guy to get within at least a usable range. There's really no need to buy a temp gauge for those kind of events, on street tires.
                    85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                    e30 restoration and V8 swap
                    24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                    • markseven
                      R3V Elite
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 5327

                      #11
                      Originally posted by JGood
                      I'd agree, if the temp equipment is available. But after some more consideration after my last post, 'the chalk method' / 'use what other guys are using method', may indeed be the best way for the causal autocrosser/HPDE guy to get within at least a usable range. There's really no need to buy a temp gauge for those kind of events, on street tires.
                      Wow, I didn't even see that brodee said "if the temp gauge isn't available" part...

                      I retract.
                      I Timothy 2:1-2

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