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  • TobyB
    R3V Elite
    • Oct 2011
    • 5168

    #16
    Yes.

    Double- clutching the harder downshifts,
    slower shifting on the upshifts.
    I never understood the physics of double- clutching
    a heavy, stock- flywheel engine on an upshift. The trans
    input shaft slows faster than the engine, and either way, you're just waiting.
    The synchros talk through the shift lever, so you can tell how well you're doing,
    if you shift deliberately.

    And when you're really racing someone, it all goes out the window net and you get
    as much speed out of the car as you can, and fix it all later!

    t
    now, sometimes I just mess with people. It's more entertaining that way. george graves

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    • ForcedFirebird
      R3V OG
      • Feb 2007
      • 8300

      #17
      Originally posted by TobyB

      And when you're really racing someone, it all goes out the window net and you get
      as much speed out of the car as you can, and fix it all later!

      t

      How true. Even driving the line etc. I never realized this before Spec racing. HPDE, Chump etc doesn't give you the same race craft as taking a green with a dozen or more cars all very similar to yours.
      john@m20guru.com
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      • ELVA164
        R3V Elite
        • Dec 2011
        • 4861

        #18
        Originally posted by TobyB
        I never understood the physics of double- clutching
        a heavy, stock- flywheel engine on an upshift. The trans
        input shaft slows faster than the engine, and either way, you're just waiting.
        Interesting...I wonder if it's just two ways of waiting like you say? I mean, one upside to the double-clutch approach would be less time spent pressing on the synchros of the next higher gear waiting for engagement. More of a tangential bonus. I think I'll probably do it anyway with the Courier for placebo effect if nothing else.
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        • djjerme
          R3V Elite
          • Sep 2010
          • 5082

          #19
          Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
          taking a green with a dozen or more cars all very similar to yours.

          ...try 20-40. You learn to work those pedals quick!


          :)
          1991 325i MT2 Touring (JDM bro)
          2016 Ford Flex
          2011 Audi A3 - wife's other German car

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          • Nesset
            Mod Crazy
            • Mar 2014
            • 672

            #20
            I witnessed one of the Pro-3 guys blow up a gearbox... No bueno. Heel toe is a PITA when you wear size 14-1/2's and you're 6'5 in an 02 lmao... Hoping to learn a little at the BMW CCA's car control clinic this month.
            -1976 2002 daily (Sold)
            -1986 528e 5 speed daily

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            • ForcedFirebird
              R3V OG
              • Feb 2007
              • 8300

              #21
              Originally posted by djjerme
              ...try 20-40. You learn to work those pedals quick!


              :)
              even with the comments and suggestions in this thread, I feel my footwork is efficient enough (except I know I need left foot brake). My problem is not keeping the gas pedal on the floor :/
              john@m20guru.com
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