I'm using Ireland Engineering camber plates and the studs are very long, even with a strut bar attached. I should be able to space the camber plate down away from the strut tower. I am also going to add a couple of shims back between the spring top hat and the camber plate itself, which should prevent the binding. They came with 3 shims per side and I think I only ran 1 or 2. The Voshlag plates are very nice.
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I like my raised subframe but combining it with camber and toe adjusters makes it a bitch to adjust them. There's no clearance once you raise it up. I wound up going back to a stock subframe with riser bushings (albeit for other reasons--my adjusters kept slipping) and it's serving me well.
Also bear in mind this will raise your ride height by a good half inch as well, since your Attachment points are moving up 12mm but your springs stay where they are.paint sucks
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I ordered the subframe risers and I am not planning on the trailing arm adjusters.
I don't believe that they change your ride height by an equal amount to what they raise the subframe, since the spring is down the arm and the spring rate does not change, so the ride height doesn't change too much. In any case, if it does change I was running 3 spring pads in the rear so I'd be able to remove some of them to compensate.
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Originally posted by Wh33lhop View PostI like my raised subframe but combining it with camber and toe adjusters makes it a bitch to adjust them. There's no clearance once you raise it up. I wound up going back to a stock subframe with riser bushings (albeit for other reasons--my adjusters kept slipping) and it's serving me well.
Also bear in mind this will raise your ride height by a good half inch as well, since your Attachment points are moving up 12mm but your springs stay where they are.
The ride height stays exactly the same because that's controlled by the length and stiffness of your springs, not the position of the subframe. Come on meow. :p
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Originally posted by nando View Postwhat? no it doesn't. it doesn't affect ride height at all - it just moves the subframe up in relation to the body, reducing the amount of negative camber (just like if you had raised the car up 12mm with taller springs).
The ride height stays exactly the same because that's controlled by the length and stiffness of your springs, not the position of the subframe. Come on meow. :p
Originally posted by SpasticDwarf;n6449866Honestly I built it just to have a place to sit and listen to Hotline Bling on repeat.
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Think of the trailing arm as a lever with the fulcrum around the spring, which you've noted won't change position. You're moving one end of the lever up 12mm. Since the motion ratio is about 2/3, it would seem the ride height rises closer to 1/4". Either way I definitely noticed it when installing my risers.paint sucks
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Gustave made great contributions to many subjects long ago. Here is an archive of his page. You can ignore the kmac eccentric bushings :) that's just shows how long ago this was written. Everyone by now knows the trouble with eccentric kmac bushes and how bad they were in the day. Not the same as eccentric adjusters most use today. Plenty of other very good info to reference and what the dtm guys were accomplishing with this chassis. Plenty of S14 specific parts for those interested.
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Originally posted by Wh33lhop View PostThink of the trailing arm as a lever with the fulcrum around the spring, which you've noted won't change position. You're moving one end of the lever up 12mm. Since the motion ratio is about 2/3, it would seem the ride height rises closer to 1/4". Either way I definitely noticed it when installing my risers.
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Originally posted by autox320 View PostGustave made great contributions to many subjects long ago. Here is an archive of his page. You can ignore the kmac eccentric bushings :) that's just shows how long ago this was written. Everyone by now knows the trouble with eccentric kmac bushes and how bad they were in the day. Not the same as eccentric adjusters most use today. Plenty of other very good info to reference and what the dtm guys were accomplishing with this chassis. Plenty of S14 specific parts for those interested.
http://web.archive.org/web/200802210...tech/index.htm
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