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  • z31maniac
    I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
    • Dec 2007
    • 17566

    #76
    I meant with a 4pt bar.

    As in 4pt harness, 4pt roll bar and fixed back seats.
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    • JGood
      R3V OG
      • Jan 2004
      • 7959

      #77
      Originally posted by z31maniac
      I meant with a 4pt bar.

      As in 4pt harness, 4pt roll bar and fixed back seats.
      Originally posted by z31maniac
      the idea of stripping down the interior before and after every auto-x/hpde would get old.

      Ya lost me. You're talking about NOT stripping the interior, then you're talking about installing a roll bar, fixed seat, & harness.

      I guess that harness would work, but I don't see why you wouldn't just get a real 5 or 6 point.


      EDIT: I think I understand what you're trying to say. You want to keep the roll bar, seat, and harness in the car full time, and want something safe for the street and track? amirite?
      Last edited by JGood; 12-12-2008, 08:43 AM.
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      • z31maniac
        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
        • Dec 2007
        • 17566

        #78
        ^Yes, you got it with the edit. I was typing it from my iPhone then just decided to get on the computer here.

        Yeah, the 4pt would be much more streetable and with a push button release, I keep my sport seat pretty upright so I bet a quality fixed back wouldn't be too uncomfortable for me.

        Pulling the entire interior all the time would get old and add unnecessary wear and tear.
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        • JGood
          R3V OG
          • Jan 2004
          • 7959

          #79
          Originally posted by z31maniac
          Yeah, the 4pt would be much more streetable and with a push button release
          I don't really think it's any more 'streetable' then my 6 point camlock harness. The anti-sub belts on my 6 point share a latch, it takes about .4 seconds to attach it.


          Originally posted by z31maniac
          Pulling the entire interior all the time would get old and add unnecessary wear and tear.
          Yeah, not to mention just getting the roll bar in or out is 1+ hour job (if you have someone to help you, if not it could take all damn day).

          I would obviously recommend a weld in bar, but since mine isn't even a weld in I can't say too much...
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          e30 restoration and V8 swap
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          • kishg
            R3VLimited
            • Sep 2006
            • 2624

            #80
            Originally posted by JGood
            I don't really think it's any more 'streetable' then my 6 point camlock harness. The anti-sub belts on my 6 point share a latch, it takes about .4 seconds to attach it.




            Yeah, not to mention just getting the roll bar in or out is 1+ hour job (if you have someone to help you, if not it could take all damn day).

            I would obviously recommend a weld in bar, but since mine isn't even a weld in I can't say too much...
            weld-in is obviously better but i left mine bolt-in for now because my car will be getting a full cage sometime in 2009 (probably in the fall), so I'd rather not weld the rollcage in and have to undo it.
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            • JGood
              R3V OG
              • Jan 2004
              • 7959

              #81
              Originally posted by kishg
              weld-in is obviously better but i left mine bolt-in for now because my car will be getting a full cage sometime in 2009 (probably in the fall), so I'd rather not weld the rollcage in and have to undo it.
              Same reason here. I'm not happy enough with my mine to leave it and build off of, so I'm going to remove and start from scratch with a cage as soon as the funds are there.
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              e30 restoration and V8 swap
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              • rwh11385
                lance_entities
                • Oct 2003
                • 18403

                #82
                Originally posted by z31maniac
                How do you guys feel about the 4 point Schroth Harnesses with ASM?
                Do what you want. If you cripple yourself, I'll just say "I told ya so"

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                • Massive Lee
                  R3V OG
                  • Sep 2006
                  • 6782

                  #83
                  Was there a reason why 4-point harnesses were banned from Motorsport 18 years ago? Hmmm. Submarining maybe. And Schroth little ASM gizmo won't keep your body from destroying itself under the lapbelt.
                  Last edited by Massive Lee; 12-12-2008, 12:19 PM.
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                  • DCColegrove
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 2748

                    #84
                    The Schroth Rallye belts work pretty well. (street)

                    The ASM (Anti Submarine) feature is simple and elegant. No worse than the OE belt.

                    They have been well tested and DOT says they're cool.

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                    • Massive Lee
                      R3V OG
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 6782

                      #85
                      Originally posted by DCColegrove
                      They have been well tested and DOT says they're cool.
                      DOT says the're cool but if DOT helmets are not approved at track events, I wonder what to make from their testing on a restraint system. DOT headlamps also are approved, but damn do they suck.
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                      • DCColegrove
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 2748

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Massive Lee
                        DOT says the're cool but if DOT helmets are not approved at track events, I wonder what to make from their testing on a restraint system. DOT headlamps also are approved, but damn do they suck.
                        Yes... You have a point there...

                        But wouldn't you agree that the Schroth Rallye harnesses are better than the 3 point OE for street use?

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                        • DSP74
                          E30 Enthusiast
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 1121

                          #87
                          Based on real world test data that I'm sure is out there on 3 point factory belts.....I'd probably take my factory belts in a street collision/street car.
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                          • JGood
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 7959

                            #88
                            Originally posted by DCColegrove
                            Yes... You have a point there...

                            But wouldn't you agree that the Schroth Rallye harnesses are better than the 3 point OE for street use?

                            With or without roll over protection? And then of course you'd need the helmet, etc...


                            It boggles my mind how people can't comprehend that these things work together...
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                            e30 restoration and V8 swap
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                            • JGood
                              R3V OG
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7959

                              #89
                              Originally posted by DSP74
                              Based on real world test data that I'm sure is out there on 3 point factory belts.....I'd probably take my factory belts in a street collision/street car.

                              Exactly.
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                              e30 restoration and V8 swap
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                              • DCColegrove
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 2748

                                #90
                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HR_FhuSEaU8&NR=1 ASM

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CS6wo...eature=related vs 3 Point

                                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHbwvYqq22s W/SRS

                                Just for grins
                                Last edited by DCColegrove; 12-12-2008, 02:08 PM.

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