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  • kendogg
    Grease Monkey
    • Jul 2006
    • 348

    #1

    Going to gut my E30

    Sorry, I tried a half dozen different search terms, but I couldn't find much. Planning on gutting my E30 in the next month or so. Looking for some idea's on what I can look for to remove from the car. The following list is what I've come up with so far:

    trunk tar
    carpet
    rear sears
    rear parcel shelf
    A/B/C pillar trim
    headliner
    door panels
    center console


    What else is there?? Is there any sound deadener inside the doors I can get out?? Not sure if I feel like taking out the dash, but if I do, I'll pull the A/C condenser as well. All the front A/C stuff is already gone.

    Can I remove the rear window regulators and somehow keep the rear windows up without worrying about them falling somehow?? Neither work anyways, and somebody was nice enough to silicone one shut before I bough the car anyways. I'd hate to do that to the other one, but it is a possibility. How much weight total do you think I can get out of the car and still have no issues driving it on the street (I'm not going to entertain idea's like cutting open the doors, etc., the car isn't caged). Thanks guys!!!
  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    parts car?
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    • kendogg
      Grease Monkey
      • Jul 2006
      • 348

      #3
      Originally posted by nando
      parts car?

      Huh?

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      • Mike B.
        E30 Modder
        • Jan 2006
        • 987

        #4
        Glove box
        Heater core
        Exterior sound deadening in the transmission tunnel
        Sunroof componants
        1-piece racing seats

        I think you could get 200-250lbs out of the car from the items that have been listed so far.

        Next comes lexan windows, FG bumpers and FG hood/decklid for another drop in weight.

        These car's aren't real heavy to start with, so getting them down low is pretty tough. If you can knock out 300lbs you are doing a great job.

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        • nando
          Moderator
          • Nov 2003
          • 34827

          #5
          Originally posted by kendogg
          Huh?
          I'm just wondering, because if you are planning on racing the car, you can't just start removing stuff - some classes have restrictions on what can be removed, and minimum weight limits as well.

          Otherwise you're basically turning your street machine into a rolling parts car..
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          • jlevie
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 13530

            #6
            I presume this would be to turn the car into a track rat... While you could strip the car and keep it street legal, driving it in that condition on a regular basis will be a very visceral experience (loud and noisy).

            If it is to be a track car... Even if you aren't planning on racing the car it would be a really good idea to pick a racing class and prepare the car with those rules in mind. The car will have greater value later to someone wanting to compete in that class if you decide to get rid of it.

            As to weights, my Spec E30 wound up at 2540lb (w/o driver and with a 1/4 tank of gas) after stripping to extent allowed by the rules and installation of two racing seats, roll cage, cool shirt system, and fire suppression system. It took 60lb of ballast to get the car up to minimum weight and by placing that weight right behind the passenger's seat I have nearly perfect cross-weights. I removed:

            Headliner
            Entire sunroof (used the sunroof panel to fill the hole)
            Carpet
            Glovebox
            Door panels and other trim (replaced front panels with AL sheet (protection from flying glass))
            Cruise control, module, and wiring
            Radio, speakers, amp, and associated wiring
            AC compressor, condenser, aux fan, dryer & lines
            PS pump
            Replaced engine driven fan with 16" 2500cfm electric fan
            Trunk lining and tool kit
            Spare
            All sound deadening in the cabin and trunk
            Underhood lining

            I've retained an operational heater and windshield washer as they are a handy things to have. I also retained the console as it made routing of the fire system pull cables much cleaner and that part weights very little.
            The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
            Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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            • Scott///M
              Advanced Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 135

              #7
              Adhesive and goo.

              gutting a car seems to always be done in the winter (for obvious reasons), but all the sound deadening and adhesive comes up a lot easier when it's warm.

              Ask santa for a heat gun.

              Scott///M | 1988 325is | 2004 Z71 Suburban | 2003 325i

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              • jlevie
                R3V OG
                • Nov 2006
                • 13530

                #8
                I find it a lot easier to get the sound deadening off in the cold. When cold enough judicious use of an air chisel will strip the car in no time. It only took about 2 hours to remove all of that tar in 30'ish weather.
                The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
                Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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                • kendogg
                  Grease Monkey
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 348

                  #9
                  The car is my track rat, and will occasionally be driven on the street. Please don't give me the generic 'pick a racing class' jargon, as I don't care. I'll do what I please with the car. It's worked well enough so far.

                  I'm going to retain the heater, for obvious reasons. As I stated, if I decide to pull the dash, it'll be only to remove the A/C condenser. I'm not caging the car. I'm not looking into seats at the moment, unless somebody offers a fantastic deal on a used set (like, less than a couple hundred). Also retaining the sunroof. it's a cable version, so it an't be all that heavy, and I like it.

                  Mike B - Thanks, I didn't know there was sound deadening on the underside of the trans tunnel too.

                  The car never had cruise, but the ABS doesn't work, and I'm going to remove all sensors, wiring, etc. for that. I need to retain the glovebox as well, mainly for paperwork storage (insurance cards, etc.), but also piece of mind for the DME (I really need to figure out a way to secure that damn thing better - it's currently only hld in place by 2 bolts).


                  Toolkit is non-existent, so all of that will go, I had forgotten about that, thanks. Anybody have any idea's abou the rear window regulators as I had mentioned??

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                  • rThor432
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3907

                    #10
                    Ha air hammer. I remember my dad coming out of the shop to tell me "You are wasting your time with that hammer and chisel, use power tools!" I said no, because the hammer and chisel worked just fine on a car that had been parked outside baking on a 100 degree day.

                    So he gets the bright idea to grab an air hammer while I am taking a drink break and puts a hole in the trunk of my car. "Oh, I thought the trunk was just a flat panel under that tar..."

                    Be careful with the air hammer. My dad was an idiot that day.

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                    • Mastrcruse
                      R3V Elite
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 5340

                      #11
                      Not trying to seem harsh but it doesn't feel like your really know what you want.

                      You want to have a "mostly" race directed car but want to keep options of a streetable car? You are going to strip a car, remove things that make it a nice DD but you aren't installing things that are going to make it a competition car? What does that make it? A DD that has no interior and no competition things.

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                      • asubimmer
                        R3V OG
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 6482

                        #12
                        you are gonna need a cage if you plan on tracking the car...
                        ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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                        • rwh11385
                          lance_entities
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 18403

                          #13
                          Originally posted by asubimmer
                          you are gonna need a cage if you plan on tracking the car...
                          false.

                          and: how would you know?

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mastrcruse
                            What does that make it?
                            a parts car..
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                            • asubimmer
                              R3V OG
                              • Jul 2004
                              • 6482

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lance_entities
                              false.

                              and: how would you know?
                              because that is what I am building my car for and I have the rule sheets. You don't have to have a cage to do a driving school though...

                              I guess if your car is pink they let you race w/out a cage?
                              ///Alpinweiß II 24v 91' 318is, Alpinweiß III 99' 323i, 04' Yamaha R6 SE for sale, 00' VW GTi, 83' El Camino BURNED, 01' P71sold, 92' Miatasold

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