So in my quest to build a SM car....REMOVE EVERYTHING

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  • DSP74
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Nov 2007
    • 1121

    #1

    So in my quest to build a SM car....REMOVE EVERYTHING

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    Last edited by DSP74; 01-07-2009, 12:32 PM.
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  • nando
    Moderator
    • Nov 2003
    • 34827

    #2
    call me crazy, but I wouldn't remove things like the exhaust heat sheilds, unless you plan on replacing them :p

    I believe min. weight for your car is around 2300lbs (1800lbs + 200x2.5l)? if I were doing the same, i would be strategically removing weight in order to balance the car out - removing just anything and everything might not be such a great idea. things high up and at the ends of the car would be first on the list - closer to the CG and the middle of the car would be last.
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    • jlevie
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 13530

      #3
      Carpet, sound deadening material, sunroof cassette and mechanism, power steering pump, hood liner, rear seat parcel shelf is a surprising amount of weight. I'm of the opinion that a working heater core is worth the weight penalty just to have a defroster. And the OE seats are weighty items. replacing them with race seats is close to 40lb/seat.
      The car makes it possible, but the driver makes it happen.
      Jim Levie, Huntsville, AL

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      • nando
        Moderator
        • Nov 2003
        • 34827

        #4
        anyone actually autox on a regular basis without a PS pump? I know std. E30s have really light steering, but that seems to me like it would suck on a tight/technical course.

        agreed on the seats - sport seats are more like 50lbs each!
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        • 91bimmahVA
          Advanced Member
          • Jun 2005
          • 119

          #5
          Originally posted by nando
          anyone actually autox on a regular basis without a PS pump? I know std. E30s have really light steering, but that seems to me like it would suck on a tight/technical course.

          agreed on the seats - sport seats are more like 50lbs each!

          In all honesty I thought the same thing about the power steering at first, but Ive done 3 events w/out PS and love it. Its a much nicer feel through any corners at speed, and as long as your moving (even at 5 mph) youre good to go. Parallel parking is a different story tho...

          Id advise to remove your PS belt and give it shot, you can always throw it right back on. Overall its a nicer tighter feel than the light, somewhat sloppy powersteering.

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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #6
            from what I understand, the sound deadening isn't all that heavy anyway. and later years didn't have trunk tar so you're safe there if it's considered part of that :p

            the ix's steering is quite a bit heavier - I never knew what everyone was talking about until I drove a 318is for a couple months.
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            • Jean
              Moderator
              • Aug 2006
              • 18228

              #7
              Under the dash, well maybe the a/c evaporator and the lines ? not very heavy. The a/c compressor under the hood and the condenser was most of the weight. I am using the a/c fan as the electrical fan, you can find oem bmw brackets to make it fit right infront of the radiator w/o using the a/c condenser.

              I am keeping PS though, I tried running w/o it and it was too much at low speeds and it's all low speeds/ tight corners in autox anyway ... my 2 cents.
              Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



              OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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              • DSP74
                E30 Enthusiast
                • Nov 2007
                • 1121

                #8
                I saw you posted pictures of that....Care to post the info on the fan brks again?
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                • Jean
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 18228

                  #9
                  Originally posted by DSP74
                  I saw you posted pictures of that....Care to post the info on the fan brks again?
                  Here you go , you'll need parts 4-13.

                  http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...73&hg=17&fg=10
                  Mtech1 v8 build thread - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...d.php?t=413205



                  OEM v8 manual chip or dme - https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho....php?p=4938827

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                  • Mike B.
                    E30 Modder
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 987

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DSP74
                    I can't remove carpet or any of the sound deadening-unless other models didn't come with it stock.
                    The 318is have almost no sound deadening under the carpet. There is some across the tunnel behind the e-brake, and some on the tunnel around the dash. That's about it.

                    Can you replace the carpeting with different carpet? I am making a lightweight carpet kit similar to the Porsche 911 RS carpet kits (perlon felt). The full carpet set will weigh all of 5 to 7.5lbs when done and the interior will still have a finished off appearance.

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                    • Mike B.
                      E30 Modder
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 987

                      #11
                      I can take some shots of the interior without carpet for your reference.

                      I am doing the carpet myself, but making templates as I go. I already have a source for the perlon felt and I'm not sure if I'm going to have the edges bound or not. I may put a couple pieces in to see what the seams look like first.

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                      • DSP74
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1121

                        #12
                        YES by all means post a picture without carpet!:up::bow:
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                        • Mike B.
                          E30 Modder
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 987

                          #13
                          Here are some interior pics of the sound deadening in a 318is. This is a bit more in the footwell of the passenger side (1 sqft), but it is was removed and covered with heat shield material.



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                          • Mike B.
                            E30 Modder
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 987

                            #14
                            Here are a couple shots of the lightweight carpet (charcoal gray):





                            I have a little bit of roll bar work to finish up, then the carpet goes in. I'll post some pics of the finished product.

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                            • DSP74
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 1121

                              #15
                              THANKS for the interior shots....Don't know if it's just for me, but the carpet pictures aren't showing up. Just red X's.
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