NOR-CAL General Chat.

[JinormusJ]

If you want to be pedantic like this, I think you should do a little more research on natural selection. In the context of NS, a mutation is any change in genetic makeup, for better or worse.

This is true, I cannot disagree with this.

However, the stance is that mutation and adaptation are still different. Mutations are genetic one-offs that occur randomly: it has nothing to do with reproduction. An Adaptation is a sequence of conditioning where a species shifts (either by physiological factors or psychological) to adapt better to it's enviornment. In essence it is a mutation, but it is a tactful conclusion adapted from its environment to further develop more and more offspring.


That's why the scientific definition for NS is worded the way it is.


Thus; in nature, because basic instinct in animals are to develops more offspring, there have been no documented natural occurrences of homosexuality in animal mating and breeding patterns that have not been synthetically produced by means of manipulation through experimentation.


TL:DR
All natural breeding in animals has ever produced is male on female baby-making. Male on male has been accomplished but it has been through prolonged and sex-less exposure to the two animals of same sex in an experimental setting.

Ergo; testosterone's gotta be dealt with somehow...


Conclusion? Homosexuality is an unnatural choice.

It's not misogyny, sexism, homophobia, or kainitophobia. It's science.

[Wh33lhop]

I for one am not gay and have never been. I personally do not intend to choose a lifestyle that would require me to consent to being sodomized. I am also a card carrying , practicing member of the homophobes coalition.
Ever been chased and pursued by a raging gay? Its an experience that one will never forget.

Driving an E30 vert, I would say you're asking for it.

Completely unrelated subject but HEY, have you ever been chased by a mob of angry homophobes because of an apparently subconscious choice you made and beaten to death? Because I'd rather the former than the latter personally.

[kronus]

In essence survival of the fittest even if proto joey # 3 likes the D ?

it's always survival of the fittest, on a large scale. more complicated arrangements are possible. An example is genetic situations where organisms that don't produce viable offspring for whatever reason (gay, sterile, unably to carry children to term, whatever) become a protector, warrior, hunter, or nurturer that helps the entire genetic line that produced it procreate. This happens in organisms like ants.

[kronus]

TL:DR
All natural breeding in animals has ever produced is male on female baby-making. Male on male has been accomplished but it has been through prolonged and sex-less exposure to the two animals of same sex in an experimental setting.

still wrong, there is a ton of evidence of gay and bisexual animals.

[Wh33lhop]

This is secondary, but gay eggs aren't impenetrable and gay sperm don't hate eggs. Ironically, gay oppression leads to lots of gays in the closet and having families, the normal straight people way.

[LJ851]

finishing up another M20 build tonight. never seen this before. pistons 1-3 shot rings. 4-6 still tight.

M20 injection is batch fired 1-3 and 4-6, a fault causing excessive fuel on the front batch (1-3) would wash the oil from the cylinder walls and wear the rings.

Could have happened a while ago and the fuel problem fixed.

[e30vert]

Driving an E30 vert, I would say you're asking for it.




Completely unrelated subject but HEY, have you ever been chased by a mob of angry homophobes because of an apparently subconscious choice you made and beaten to death? Because I'd rather the former than the latter personally.

Ahh , you are implying that I may be secretly masking my own homosexuality by the car choices I made. Well , the vert is one of a number of vehicles that I own and drive. The other vehicles are assuredly less of a homo magnet. Rock Crawling lifted Jeep, truck, etc...

Convertables in general (not just the e30 vert) do tend to illicit attention from not only women but also homosexual males. I was not chased by a homosexual when driving the e30 vert though. I was on a moped in West Hollywood heading over to Santa Monica beach as a youth. Should not have chosen the route through West Hollywood as it is a conglomeration of alternate lifestyles.

I have not yet been chased by an angry mob of homophobes and beaten to death (this evidenced by my abilty to post this). We homophobes tend to be able to sniff out those of a similar nature and bond quite well. Much like gays hang with other gays. Group bonding can be seen in many other facets of life as well.

[JinormusJ]

still wrong, there is a ton of evidence of gay and bisexual animals.

I'm just going to quote this instead of anything else

I have yet to read anywhere that "gayness"-trait is a genetic formation. You prove you're own example invalid because the aforementioned circumstances will never exist.

Secondly, the Onion is not a verifiable news source my friend.



C'mon guys. Ask a Christian what his stance on this issue is and you're shocked by his answer... I thought we've been over this argument 3-4 times already in NCGC alone.

Don't get me wrong. I do not hate anyone; I love all people of all cultures and orientation. We're all humans and we all fall under the same boat. I have no intent to hate or harm another human based on orientation or preference, but that does not mean I have to cave into political correctness or media standards and agree with their lifestyle or support it myself.

At the end of the day, we're all still human and we all need help. If you think you are inherently good, you are a fool: I'm talking to myself when I say this aswell.




I'm going to stop right here because this has turned into P&R. Continue on

[e30vert]

M20 injection is batch fired 1-3 and 4-6, a fault causing excessive fuel on the front batch (1-3) would wash the oil from the cylinder walls and wear the rings.

Could have happened a while ago and the fuel problem fixed.

A rich condition on cylinders 1-3. Makes sense.
Wouldnt the opposite be true as well. A Lean condition would not allow enough fuel "quench" to cool the cylinders and cause excessive wear?

[kronus]

I have yet to read anywhere that "gayness"-trait is a genetic formation. You prove you're own example invalid because the aforementioned circumstances will never exist.

so who was it that started talking about natural selection again?

religious people don't offend me. willful ignorance offends me.

you have a right to your opinion, but attempting to portray it as anything more than that (with constant references to "science" without understanding the words you're using) is disingenuous at best, and insulting to actual science and actual people who understand, use, and try to further scientific knowledge.

I attempted to teach you something, because you asked me to. clearly this was a waste of my time, since you have no desire to challenge your world view. cheers!

[Wh33lhop]

Ahh , you are implying that I may be secretly masking my own homosexuality by the car choices I made. Well , the vert is one of a number of vehicles that I own and drive. The other vehicles are assuredly less of a homo magnet. Rock Crawling lifted Jeep, truck, etc...

Convertables in general (not just the e30 vert) do tend to illicit attention from not only women but also homosexual males. I was not chased by a homosexual when driving the e30 vert though. I was on a moped in West Hollywood heading over to Santa Monica beach as a youth. Should not have chosen the route through West Hollywood as it is a conglomeration of alternate lifestyles.

I have not yet been chased by an angry mob of homophobes and beaten to death. We tend to be able to sniff out those of a similar nature and bond quite well. Much like gays hang with other gays. Group bonding can be seen in many other facets of life as well.

I was joking, ya tard. But the second part is a thing that happens. It's really funny to me that someone could be proud of being a homophobe, because that's just based in ignorance and insecurity. Gay people are people too, they don't all want to fuck you just because you've got a dick, and they don't bite. But frankly at this point I'm really not sure who's just joining in to troll in this thread.

[HerbReal]

Saturday meet, who's going? I might be able to make it out there and hang.

[e30vert]

Not proud - just honest. Its true they all dont want to fuck me , but the ones that do are the ones that I practice my homophobic ways with. It is a way of insulating myself from those that would want to try and emasculate me.

Its really not a funny thing and I think that there are a great number of males that share the sentiment. If there is an angry mob of homophobes on the loose I would be sure to stay out of their way. Not just because they are homophobes but because a mob (gathering of like minded individuals) tend to become unsettled and prone to acting out if anyone challenges their views and beliefs openly (history is full of examples).

It can be a mob of MADD (Mothers Against Drunk Driving) that could chase one down and beat you to death. Its the strength in numbers aspect that is worrisome.

It is especially true as I am a member of DAMM - (Drunks Against Mad Mothers)

[YosemiteSam]

To get us back on E30s, this is what one of the inner races of my front wheel bearing looked like.

[mbonanni]

Do you think that bearing chose to be like that? No, poor bearing.