NOR-CAL General Chat.

[mbonanni]

Cab, please say whatever. You havent made any valid points to me.

I am saying m30>m50 both stock. M50 with extras I would chose over an m30, but at that point I would save up the extra and get an s50.

[Cabriolet]

shit>m30>m50

both are a waste of time and money. he's got an m42. isnt a good mpg car, use it like that until there is enough money to get a quality engine.

[RUFFLZ]

why is it so difficult to find a working oem radio

any of you guys have one with a working tapedeck? lemme knowwwwwwwwwww

[Vivek]

Not in CA it isn't. N/A swap is the way to go imo. Especially for teenagers that use their car as a dd

Having access to other cars is not an issue. I don't need a particularly reliable car.

LBV, no.

S52 swap is the best. save you money.

That makes less power for the money though.

Maybe I'll just get a head from PNP for the m50 I'm getting tomorrow, and once that's all in an running with all the little issues sorted out, I can get an s50/52 and it'll be a more straightforward swap (especially since I'll have done it all before since, in my experience, everything takes 2-4x longer the first time). If I really wanted to do so, I could have the m50tu in for under $500 bucks.

[Cabriolet]

ya i do. but you cant have it.

[mbonanni]

shit>m30>m50

both are a waste of time and money. he's got an m42. isnt a good mpg car, use it like that until there is enough money to get a quality engine.

Yes.

I don't fully agree with your second statement.

[RUFFLZ]

ya i do. but you cant have it.

butt.
wai

[Vivek]

I had an M42 turbo. It never blew up, just ran like shit until I had megasquirt and got it tuned. Then got a ref ticket.

How much did the ticket cost?



What's wrong with a budget swap for now before going all out and spending 10k? There's absolutely no point in the foreseeable future that I will have 10 thousand dollars to spend on my e30 at once. And that kind of money is a gigantic budget for an s52 swap. You can nearly do an s54 for that cash (but I have no desire to ever swap in an s54).

[Danny]

Having access to other cars is not an issue. I don't need a particularly reliable car.

That makes less power for the money though.

Maybe I'll just get a head from PNP for the m50 I'm getting tomorrow, and once that's all in an running with all the little issues sorted out, I can get an s50/52 and it'll be a more straightforward swap (especially since I'll have done it all before since, in my experience, everything takes 2-4x longer the first time). If I really wanted to do so, I could have the m50tu in for under $500 bucks.

lol it really won't though. Nothing is different. The wiring harness won't need to be transferred over if you use an adapter or anything. You don't make changes to the body or subframe, everything bolts in.

Honestly, Vivek, as someone who has owned an M42 turbo, M20 and an S50 car. Let me say this. Save your money. Swap in an S50 or S52. BAR legalize it, and enjoy your car.

As someone who was once a dumb teenager with a hankering to wrench on something every weekend, let me say this. Turbo your M42. It's awesome and you will love every second you spend underneath fixing charge pipes and oil leaks and little shit like that.

Do what you want though dude.

Edit: the ticket cost twenty bucks or something because I scrapped the car. Had I not either scrapped the car or returned it to stock and had it BAR'd, it would have been like 1800 bucks.

[Vivek]

So if you return it back to stock and BAR it, it's only like a $20 ticket?

Is there anything that's fundamentally wrong with an m50tu swap? I understand that it's just as much work as an s50 swap and makes significantly less power, but I don't understand why everyone seems so against it. I wouldn't see it as a waste of money since it's so damn cheap (without getting s50 cams/an expensive tune, a BAR-legal exhaust, and all that good stuff).

[Danny]

So if you return it back to stock and BAR it, it's only like a $20 ticket?

Yeah but if you get pulled over again either they impound your car or you have to do it again or some shit.

Is there anything that's fundamentally wrong with an m50tu swap? I understand that it's just as much work as an s50 swap and makes significantly less power, but I don't understand why everyone seems so against it. I wouldn't see it as a waste of money since it's so damn cheap (without getting s50 cams/an expensive tune, a BAR-legal exhaust, and all that good stuff).

Over an M42 its a decent size gain I suppose. If you were swapping from an M20 I don't see it as worth it. A 1000 dollar engine swap can go quite a ways into maintenance parts to get your original engine back up to snuff. Head rebuild, timing overhaul, etc.

[mbonanni]

It is because everyone else has an actual income and can afford to fund a higher dollar swap.

Do the m50 if you want. I would.

I am referring to over my 325es.

[Thizzelle]

the m30 is a joke. it weights a ton, costs a ton to get up to muster, has no real power, is not documented very well, is harder to get parts for and under preforms in mpg, kW/liter and is lower power out put. anyone that has done this swap is retarded. i wouldnt even do it if someone even payed me to do it.

save the money do it right the first time.
hens the reason im going to do the EVO3 conversion on my s14.

if you don't care about keeping the s14 then s52 would be faster.
Eventually I'm converting mine to 2.5L

[Vivek]

Yeah, I don't understand why one would replace an m20 with anything less than an s50. My m42 timing components are actually in amazing condition, and the head is damn near the cleanest head (under the valve cover, not against the pistons) I've ever seen. Even my intake ports had only a thin film of sludge on them after 194k. That's not looking like such a terrible option. With a decent head (decked, hot tanked, pressure tested) and new rings, it shouldn't be out of the realm of possibility to put over 150whp down.

But if that m42 turbo has very good reviews I may have to reconsider. It'll be more power and lighter.

[Pantless Spency]

my intake ports had no such thing at 213k.
lol.