<b> Canyon Riding This Weekend? </b>

[parkerbink]

I wasn't commenting on his canyon carving abilities, I was just laughing at his Ben Careful jokes.

I know.

This reminds me of an accident I was a passanger in. My friend was a very good driver, knew the canyons like the back of his hand. He had alot of skills. Carpentry, home and car alarm installatin, auto tech etc. and had a wealthy family. He had money and he earned money.

As a result he always had everything he wanted. After having 4Xs all through H.S. he got a 280ZX (this was new in the early 80's) he drove it for a year and traded it for a highly modded turbo GTI which was a monster but was fwd & had severe torque steer due to being an early powerful fwd car.

I went with him to pick it up and we went to my house on Beverly Glen to drop off my car and go to his house on Coldwater Canyon. Naturally we took Mulholland.

Within 5 miles we had run head on into an older lady in a very nice (before we hit it) 3.0CS. She broke her arm and I hurt my knees.

He had owned the car for under two hours and it was totaled.

IMHO the primary cause of the accident was his lack of familiarity with the car plus perhaps something slick on the road plus we should not have been speding on Mulholland.

I acknowledge it is fun to "drive spiritedly" but there is a time and place, and just because 'OTHER PEOPLE DO IT" DOES NOT MAKE IT RIGHT.

[FredK]

Ben, Thank you even though we have not met, you are the youthful exception to the rule. Thanks for being a young guy without his head planted firmly up his own keister.

Yep. He needs to have his head out of his ass so he can fully appreciate the heavenly scent of his own farts.

[Turf1600]

Worst thread ever. Polak and friends - you're all morons. Stay away from my roads.

[Farbin Kaiber]

I write whatever comes to my mind, and i don't worry about how it comes out. This site is not a professional setting where issues like grammar truly matter. I could give a rat's ass about your grammatical, or syntactical judgment, I'll leave that to my professors (they actually have the right to do so).

Tell that to Nostradamus, Shakespeare, or any other classical author. You do not realize now but the internet is in it's infantcy. In a hundred years, your posterity and general public will read your every word, and judge your brain power by the words you left as grafitti stains on the WWW. This is another subject for another thread though. Maybe you should pose the question to your UCLA teachers.


Ben, Thank you even though we have not met, you are the youthful exception to the rule. Thanks for being a young guy without his head planted firmly up his own keister.

[Ben Carufel]

It's called a FORUM, which is on the internet. As far as my grammar is concerned, it's just to my liking. I simply prefer to type in long, run-on sentences when I'm on the forums, because I have the freedom to do so. I write whatever comes to my mind, and i don't worry about how it comes out. This site is not a professional setting where issues like grammar truly matter. I could give a rat's ass about your grammatical, or syntactical judgment, I'll leave that to my professors (they actually have the right to do so). This argument gains validity considering the fact that you dropped out of school. By the way, I've received above average marks on all my writing assignments at school, so please get off my back.
I never said that I was trying to race or push the limits of my car in the canyons. Please prove to me where I specifically implied that notion, and I will rightfully commend you for it. I could care less if you chose to take the safe and sound route, I try to for the most part. We are all individuals, with our own free will, therefore you can keep your high and mighty comments to yourself -- DOUCHE BAG! :finger: I'm done with this thread.

You sound a lot more intelligent when you use proper grammar.

Now don't go slamming your car into any immovable objects out there in the canyons.

See also:

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=105975

[parkerbink]

T.J. That may be, but I grew up in the canyons he is using as a playground and have many a story to tell.

I lived through several close calls that include people pulling out of their driveway in front of idiots speeding to idiots hitting something slick & going into someones living room.

I lived to tell the tale but I know people that were not as lucky.

In the early 80's L.A. was crowded but nothing like today. The streets are not for racing.



I lived on Beverly Glen, canyon far left. All of these roads were built in the 20's they were in the boonies and had small houses, they were meant to allow north south passage into/out of the Valley and were not meant for the type of traffic they see today.

If you look at the spot where there is a curve on Beverly Glen, you will see a major point of accidents. There is a light there and when there is alot of traffic during a red light cars back up. A kid "doing what he wants" rear ended my Mom sitting at that light. She was hurt. Is that ok?

[e30polak]

Listen "Guy", I don't have a damn thing to "prove" to you :).

A) Your grammar sucks for someone who's going to UCLA. Try to take the time to put together a coherent sentence that's not riddled with teenage abbreviations and you may get a bit more respect.

B) Let me re-summarize what's wrong with "Running The Canyons". Just because you haven't had an accident out there doesn't make it safe. What don't you get about that? Here are the points I made in a previous post...I believe all you could say was "Yeah, well, it hasn't happened to me so it's not dangerous!!1111"

On public roads, there are always factors you can't control; animals, sand/gravel, THE OTHER DRIVERS, etc.

On a race track all of those things are cancelled out.

What don't you understand about that?

Your attitude is just like that of every other punk kid that thinks he's a hot shit driver and is in total control. One day someone might pull out from a side road right in front of you and in that split second before you t-bone the hell out of their car, the point I'm making will hit home.

It's called a FORUM, which is on the internet. As far as my grammar is concerned, it's just to my liking. I simply prefer to type in long, run-on sentences when I'm on the forums, because I have the freedom to do so. I write whatever comes to my mind, and i don't worry about how it comes out. This site is not a professional setting where issues like grammar truly matter. I could give a rat's ass about your grammatical, or syntactical judgment, I'll leave that to my professors (they actually have the right to do so). This argument gains validity considering the fact that you dropped out of school. By the way, I've received above average marks on all my writing assignments at school, so please get off my back.
I never said that I was trying to race or push the limits of my car in the canyons. Please prove to me where I specifically implied that notion, and I will rightfully commend you for it. I could care less if you chose to take the safe and sound route, I try to for the most part. We are all individuals, with our own free will, therefore you can keep your high and mighty comments to yourself -- DOUCHE BAG! :finger: I'm done with this thread.

[Coouuper S]

We put this little get together to just snap a few pics and go one a little cruise.

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=106154

I haven't finished yet doing all the maintence work on my new e30 yet, so I will be bringing my Mini for this one. I myself do enjoy that route when I do not have anything better to do and see plenty of CHP cars patrolling that area. We all should take it very easy and enjoy the drive. This will be my first gettogether to meet some of the e30 folks.

[atomic]

over confident =


Save it for the tracks and not public roads

[Ben Carufel]

I have met Ben as well at SD Auto-x and all I can say is that he is a great guy that sure can drive really well. Seemed like a very nice and respectfull guy.

Ben I will see you at this months Auto-x and hopefully meet you ( e30polak ) at the meet on the 16th.

Thanks for the kind words. I will definitely be at the autocross this month. What's this about a meet on the 16th?

For what it's worth, there's a distinct difference between some kids "Running the Canyons!!1!11" and a club or group of mature people going for a nice drive on twisty roads.

[parkerbink]

wut's wrong with running canyons? as long as u know the roads and know ur car, it's fun as hell. me and my buds have been going since high school, nothing ever happens. some people can't afford to rape their tires and brakes every weekend. a lil canyon driving feeds the beast inside without having to go to far out of the way(at least 4 me), and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg. if u go on the weekends during the day, then yes u r gonna run into cops and rich bastards that drive too slow. that's y u leave it for 11 p.m or later and only do a few runs. then there r no cops and no problems :nice:

however posting it up like this opn the web for everyone to see could clue in angry neighbors, or the

Are you talking about Benedict, Coldwater, Beverly Glen or Mulholland? If so they all have a funny thing called OTHER DRIVERS. These other drivers don't expect people to come screaming around the CORNERS (another thing canyons have) at excessive speed and these OTHER DRIVERS do things you can't predict.

Take your "fun" where it belongs and off MY streets where I have every right to not expect to see you crashing.

[Erick]

What the fuck would I know? I dropped out of community college.

Thug life!!1!

Anywho, this thread stinks with 12 year old attitude.

[Coouuper S]

Don't forget selling drugs and whoring yourself out, either. Those definitely help with the disposable income. Tax free, too.

Tim

PS Polak, Ben's good people. I bought a car and some RS001's from him and he's anything but a rich prick in person. He's got a fetish for nice cars and a BMW Tech for a girlfriend, but I think that's most car guy's dream life when they're 23. :up:

PPS Every time I see you call a car a "whip" I feel like I'm watching an episode of Unique Whips.

I have met Ben as well at SD Auto-x and all I can say is that he is a great guy that sure can drive really well. Seemed like a very nice and respectfull guy.
However, I do not see anything wrong with canyon driving. The Mini club and I do it all the time and we do try to keep it as safe as possible. We just love to enjoy our cars and the scenery and do not race around in the canyons. As long as you keep it safe and enjoy yourself with a couple of friends then it should not be a problem at all. I do understand what Ben is talking about and I also agree that about some certain people. Hence I also think that we are much diffrent then some idiots that think its a freakin race track up there. Just keep it safe and fun.

Ben I will see you at this months Auto-x and hopefully meet you ( e30polak ) at the meet on the 16th.

[Ben Carufel]

How's that re-summarizing? You just copy pasted something from a page ago. That's something straight out of community college. :p

What the fuck would I know? I dropped out of community college.

[Erick]

How's that re-summarizing? You just copy pasted something from a page ago. That's something straight out of community college. :p