New Washington laws Regarding selling your car.

[SGT4677]

That, at least, makes some SENSE. Different owner, different plate, and the plate can stay with the owner, not the vehicle.
The FUCKING 7 year rule was utter bullshit. Just because the damned plates faded in Arizona doesn't mean they fade here. I have some that are 20+ years old, and they glitter almost like new.
Ok, I'm gonna go take a pill now. But this is better news...

t

I don't see a change to RCW 46.16A.200(10) for the 7 year rule. It stays.

My question is how does a private transaction take place without violating the law in some way? Lets say that I buy an 86 eta auto with 350k for $10,0000.00 dollars on a Sunday from a c-list seller in a parking lot at the mall because its Yo Hella Racecar Yo? The seller keeps the plates and I get a clapped out e30 with no plates, and a bill of sale.

Unless I have pre-purchased a trip permit for $25.00 I have no way of legally moving my prize back to my mansion. If I get pulled over by the friendly local law enforcement official I can now get a ticket for operating an unregistered motor vehicle with no plates and it can be impounded right then and there. My $57.00 30 dollar car tabs that now cost $77.00 because I need to be fined $20.00 for new plates plus sales tax now will cost an extra $1,052.00 plus impound and storage fees.
This is how your government protects you and cares for you in Soviet Workers Paradise.

[I got it, yes!!]

I don't see a change to RCW 46.16A.200(10) for the 7 year rule. It stays.

My question is how does a private transaction take place without violating the law in some way? Lets say that I buy an 86 eta auto with 350k for $10,0000.00 dollars on a Sunday from a c-list seller in a parking lot at the mall because its Yo Hella Racecar Yo? The seller keeps the plates and I get a clapped out e30 with no plates, and a bill of sale.

Unless I have pre-purchased a trip permit for $25.00 I have no way of legally moving my prize back to my mansion. If I get pulled over by the friendly local law enforcement official I can now get a ticket for operating an unregistered motor vehicle with no plates and it can be impounded right then and there. My $57.00 30 dollar car tabs that now cost $77.00 because I need to be fined $20.00 for new plates plus sales tax now will cost an extra $1,056.00 plus impound and storage fees.
This is how your government protects you and cares for you in Soviet Workers Paradise.

Thats a great question, if the plates come off when bought, how do you drive it home?

[SGT4677]

You have to either tow it or make your transaction at a licensing office during their business hours.
In the scenario I outlined in my previous post it occurred to me that this is what government calls "creating jobs" They only "create" things on the backs of the citizens.

[Quadrajet]

When did this get enacted? I bought a car 2 weeks ago and nothing was mentioned about the plates, except that when I need to re-tab it in September I have to get new plates.

I can see all sorts of annoying stuff happen now.

[TobyB]

I can see all sorts of annoying stuff happen now.

I have seen all sorts of annoying stuff happening already. But I can see how this will add to it!

t

[cferb]

Thats a great question, if the plates come off when bought, how do you drive it home?

As I understand it the plates don't have to stay with the seller, they are simply not valid to the buyer when he goes to register. But I may be wrong.

[Martin C.]

I continually blame the bad economy to Baby Boomers. Most will continue to suck resources for generations to come...for almost free.

Back to topic: recommend do the title transfer at Licensing, and get the new owner to register the changes and pax taxes on the spot. In the past I also had to deal with BS from new owner who didn't register (pay taxes) until he got into an accident in 'my' car.

[Dtmevo3]

Anyone want a e30 m3 and has 28k sitting around message me.

[squidmaster]

It's been that way in FL as long as I can remember, expect you have to pay a minimum of $80 to have your tag transferred.

[cg138]

The time period between sale and registration brings up a good point, how are we suppose to deal with that then? Do the old plates only become invalid on the sold car when the new owner registers the car, or as soon as the title is signed over?

I don't see a change to RCW 46.16A.200(10) for the 7 year rule. It stays.

In the bill that amended RCW 46.16A.200 that was passed and attached in the original post (and also linked below), Section 10 was crossed out, and other relevant sections were amended to remove references of periodic license plate changes. Looks like these new changes are effective mid-June, so the RCW website will probably get updated with the new language then.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2013-14/Pdf/Bills/Session%20Laws/Senate/5785-S.SL.pdf

[ST1G]

How was Washington's plate system set up prior?

[Quadrajet]

Plates stayed with car. Before the "flat tax" for vehicles it was optional for the owner to get new plates, I remember this back in the 80's when I had my Chevelle. In the 90's it was optional from what I remember, had the same plates on my Blazer all through the 90's. Only got new ones when I lost one in a mud bog.

There is a "Seller's report of Sale" that you should fill out when you sell a vehicle. Register the "report of Sale" with the DOL and if the new owner abandons or wrecks the car, it's on them not you. This has "saved the bacon" of quite a few folks I know.

[SGT4677]

The time period between sale and registration brings up a good point, how are we suppose to deal with that then? Do the old plates only become invalid on the sold car when the new owner registers the car, or as soon as the title is signed over?



In the bill that amended RCW 46.16A.200 that was passed and attached in the original post (and also linked below), Section 10 was crossed out, and other relevant sections were amended to remove references of periodic license plate changes. Looks like these new changes are effective mid-June, so the RCW website will probably get updated with the new language then.

http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/bil.../5785-S.SL.pdf

Thanks,I missed that.

[AAA325iS]

If you scroll down to the very last page you'll see that it doesn't come into act until Jan. 1st, 2015.

That will probably give them time to figure out a way for you to drive your new (clapped out) E30 home. Either that or they will not be ticketing people that have a valid bill of sale.

[87threetwofive]

I continually blame the bad economy to Baby Boomers. Most will continue to suck resources for generations to come...for almost free.

Really? I'm 55. Still working hard. Still paying into the system. Still living within my means. Still driving my 27 yo E30. How is that causing a bad economy? What I see is zero work ethic in the kids under me and they blame everyone else for their situations. Want everything handed to them with no effort put forth. Hmmm, might be a pattern here. Idiot.