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The thing that bothers me is that they couldve created a new "shifter" and a few other toyota only parts and it would've made a big difference, but literally cover the emblem on the steering wheel and you wouldnt know the difference.Simon
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Originally posted by roguetoaster View PostTwo, in the automotive world of today Toyota really missed the opportunity to make the Supra a high power electric only car. I suspect that this would have angered enthusiasts as well, but it would have likely been faster.
also I feel like it really doesnt look too bad. Looks super european but I think thats just because euro sports cars are staying relatively modest in terms of exterior styling. Idk. It could have had a turbo 4 cyl....can always be worse
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Originally posted by wworm View PostOh now this is an idea that I would be really excited about
also I feel like it really doesnt look too bad. Looks super european but I think thats just because euro sports cars are staying relatively modest in terms of exterior styling. Idk. It could have had a turbo 4 cyl....can always be worseOriginally posted by roguetoaster View PostWhen they discover that it's not selling at the price point desired they will probably take the same T4 out of the Z4 lineup and put it in the Supra as a budget model.
Road & Track web editor Chris Perkins had the chance to speak with Supra chief engineer Testsuya Tada at the Goodwood Festival of Speed a few days ago, and the Toyota employee confirmed that there will indeed be a four-cylinder Supra. Tada also elaborated, saying the four-cylinder Supra will be lighter, with "much better weight distribution" and a sharper-feeling turn-in. Tada also remarked that, for the Supra owners who plan to swap in a 2JZ engine, "please buy the four-cylinder. It will be cheaper."Byron
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Give it a while once it's out and someone will be grafting Z4 front ends onto the Supra to make a Z4 coupe ;) Given the way that all modern BMWs are bolt on plastic in front of the front struts, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole front end can just bolt in.
The interior looks like a graft of the F3x entertainment / HVAC controls into the new Z4 dash. Will be interesting to see how Toyota has tweaked the suspension vs. the Z4.
I just wish Toyota would bolt the B48 into the 86... or the 2.0T from the Lexus is200 - that chassis is good, but it cries for an engine with more torque (otherwise I'd have one in the garage already!)
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Originally posted by SOneThreeCoupe View PostI think I've reached the point where I'm just a grumpy old guy who looks at modern cars like children look at pureed peas- with a look of incredulity and a thought that "they expect me to consume this shit?"
Originally posted by coldweatherblue View PostFunny I can buy a new off-road Tacoma from Toyota with a proper 6-speed manual gearbox but they make a new Supra and give it the slushbox..
Guess we should just be grateful for what we have..
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Originally posted by SOneThreeCoupe View PostI think I've reached the point where I'm just a grumpy old guy who looks at modern cars like children look at pureed peas- with a look of incredulity and a thought that "they expect me to consume this shit?"
As for the cost of the current generation of smart phones, don't get me started! ;)
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Originally posted by lukeADE335i View PostGive it a while once it's out and someone will be grafting Z4 front ends onto the Supra to make a Z4 coupe ;) Given the way that all modern BMWs are bolt on plastic in front of the front struts, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole front end can just bolt on
Oh you mean this grille?
Simon
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-1999 996.1 911 4/98 3.8L 6-Speed, 21st Century Beetle
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I've heard a few mentionings from Toyota's insiders about fitting the 2JZ into the 4-cylinder version. I can't help but wonder HOW easy it would be to do? These mentionings make me wonder if Toyota intentionally designed several key mounting points to make swapping in a 2JZ SUPER EASY. That'd be one way to quickly sidestep emmisions standards and keep the enterprising enthusiast happy. Something like, "Oops, THAT mounting hole sure lined up by accident. whodathunk?!"
Then next week Toyota offers a new "Factory Built" 2JZ program through it's dealers.
As for the design...I like it, except for the side profile. The wheel base does not match AT ALL.
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Once I saw the interior and truly saw it's just a BMW with a Toyota badge I stopped caring.My Garage
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