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  • PCasil
    Noobie
    • Oct 2013
    • 23

    #1

    Top Dead Center HELP

    Since S14.net has been out of service for the past two weeks, I might as ask my questions here.

    I'm trying to change the head gasket of my E30 M3 and I noticed, today, the metal point that points to the line on the crank pulley to signify it's on top dead center (TDC) is a bit off. I must've moved the timing chain a bit that caused it to move a bit. Keep in mind I still have the cylinder head on. So my question is: Is it still possible to set my crankshaft at TDC before I remove my cylinder head? I'm a bit worried because it's not precisely at TDC because I haven't removed the cylinder head yet and it's supposed to be exactly at TDC by the time the cylinder head is removed. Any help is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

    P.S. I'm following the directions based on the KoalaMotorsports manual as well as the factory manual.

    -PCASIL
    IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY
  • reno808
    Noobie
    • Oct 2013
    • 4

    #2
    Remember their is 2 top center. Make sure its on the compression stroke so the intake valve will be open. stick a long extension in the spark plug hole and make sure its at highest point....

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    • PCasil
      Noobie
      • Oct 2013
      • 23

      #3
      Originally posted by reno808
      Remember their is 2 top center. Make sure its on the compression stroke so the intake valve will be open. stick a long extension in the spark plug hole and make sure its at highest point....


      Please take a look at my video..
      IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY

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      • PCasil
        Noobie
        • Oct 2013
        • 23

        #4
        Bump..Anybody?
        IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY

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        • spdracrm3
          E30 Modder
          • Sep 2009
          • 959

          #5
          your ok

          your fine to move it that tiny bit to the line pistons will barely move if at all as its so close to TDC, you probably find when re-installing it will move as you put things together, you just need to make sure marks are good with chain tight.
          it takes a lot of movement to get to a piston/valve contact point and if you are moving things by hand you would feel it stop and so wouldnt keep turning it past that point..
          Angus
          88 E30M3 X2
          89 325IX
          92 R100GS/PD
          :)

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          • SamE30e
            R3V Elite
            • Sep 2007
            • 4319

            #6
            You're fine. Lift it off.

            You just need to be careful when putting it on.
            1985 325e 2.8 Turbo VEMS

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            • reelizmpro
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2003
              • 9445

              #7
              Yes u can but doesn't have to be at tdc before removal. I'm guessing they advise it to make things easier when reinstalling? Not sure. It's easiest to find tdc with the head off.
              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
              91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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              • PCasil
                Noobie
                • Oct 2013
                • 23

                #8
                Originally posted by spdracrm3
                your fine to move it that tiny bit to the line pistons will barely move if at all as its so close to TDC, you probably find when re-installing it will move as you put things together, you just need to make sure marks are good with chain tight.
                it takes a lot of movement to get to a piston/valve contact point and if you are moving things by hand you would feel it stop and so wouldnt keep turning it past that point..
                Originally posted by SamE30e
                You're fine. Lift it off.

                You just need to be careful when putting it on.
                Originally posted by reelizmpro
                Yes u can but doesn't have to be at tdc before removal. I'm guessing they advise it to make things easier when reinstalling? Not sure. It's easiest to find tdc with the head off.
                Thanks guys! I'll take a shot of removing the head in a few days and have it sent to the shop to get it resurfaced.

                -PCasil
                IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY

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                • PCasil
                  Noobie
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 23

                  #9
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                  Today I got the chance to remove my cylinder head before I headed to work, and this is what I found. Carbon deposits on top of the cylinders.

                  So my question is, is this normal? And how can I remove the carbon deposits on top of the pistons without disassembling the pistons? I bought engine degreaser but I'm not really sure if the safest bet without your guys' approval first. Any recommendations on how to safely remove and clean the top of the cylinders?

                  -PCasil
                  IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY

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                  • reelizmpro
                    R3V OG
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 9445

                    #10
                    Yes, to a degree. Mechanics will typically clean them up with a wire wheel.
                    "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                    85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                    88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                    89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                    91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                    • PCasil
                      Noobie
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 23

                      #11
                      Originally posted by reelizmpro
                      Yes, to a degree. Mechanics will typically clean them up with a wire wheel.
                      Should I keep it on, or should I remove it? I'm hearing a lot of mixed reviews regarding to keep it on or removing it..
                      IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY

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                      • reno808
                        Noobie
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 4

                        #12
                        Easy off the oven cleaning product works REALLY well make sure you clean up after it really well and your good to go

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                        • uturn
                          E30 Modder
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 983

                          #13
                          shiny pistons

                          I use brake cleaner, wooden dowels(aka chopsticks) and buckets of elbow grease!

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                          • PCasil
                            Noobie
                            • Oct 2013
                            • 23

                            #14
                            Originally posted by reno808
                            Easy off the oven cleaning product works REALLY well make sure you clean up after it really well and your good to go
                            Originally posted by uturn
                            I use brake cleaner, wooden dowels(aka chopsticks) and buckets of elbow grease!
                            Thanks for your input guys. I'll try to get it cleaned by tonight

                            -PCasil
                            IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY

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                            • PCasil
                              Noobie
                              • Oct 2013
                              • 23

                              #15
                              What do you guys think? Clean?
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                              IG: SJZOOSUAVEBOY

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