1992 BMW 325i M-Technik Convertible FOR SALE SOLDSOLDSOLD

[cactusjacks1]

DMS it sounds like Chris keyed into what you desired in an e30 and was quick to point out this was not a recommended car/ investment for your expectations, especially if you want to pay a shop to do the work. If I were a mechanic I doubt I would recommend someone buy a car that needed the above work, many e30 owners will choose a car that is affordable initially (that would definitely fail an inspection) that they can fix up along the way as time and money permits, this car falls into the latter category. It sounds to me like you would be best off looking for a car with a detailed and documented recent mechanical overhaul that you will pay more up front for but will cost you less in the long run.

Ryan, A lot of what you say is pretty much on target. But buying a car over the internet requires a lot of ducks be in a row before anyone's going to spring for airfare from Chicago. DMS has done a textbook evaluation on an internet purchase potential for this car. Based on the info he acquired he choose not to pursue it further. There's a lot of learning here for those who grasp the lesson. If he was close like you & could kick the tires, drive it, etc with a 20 min. drive, he could see for himself what was/wasn't right about the car. Too many red flags in this thread to spend any $$ on a flight - way to much risk. If it's a bargain at his asking price then why didn't it sell when it first came on the market. For that matter, it should have traded hands then without an ad.

[Wild Ride]

I agree 100% Jack. A PPI is one of the most neglected steps in purchasing a car and DMS did a great job doing his research. To me a car needs to really be something special and a top notch example for a person to warrant buying a car 2000 miles away. Buying a project car sight unseen 2000 miles away is quite a leap of faith and one that I would not personally take. Unfortunately for someone living in the rust belt you may not have an option.

[MR 325]

Obviously the voices of reason have spoken but I'd just like to agree that the car is priced fairly for what the buyer is getting.

If you want an E30 that needs NO work (LOL) you'll be spending $10,000 to $15,000.

[Badgtho]

Wow. This is sad.

It's a 20 yr old $5500 m technic with 200k
It's worth thousands in parts only.

Show me ANY 200k mile e30 and ill show you the work it needs.
The shop quoted thousands of dollars worth of work at shop prices. Some of us here are enthusiasts and realize that we can do things ourselves.

Bottom line is that car is worth $$$$. It's not some 84 318.

[Badgtho]

I'm also going to venture that wild ride is not a DIY type of gal.

Hell.... If you took my 99 e36 m3 to a dealer and it needed fluids (diff, brake, coolant, oil, PS) and brakes that's about $3000 at their prices. Add worn out shocks and struts youre looking at $4500 easy. Does that mean my exquisite example is a roach? No. It means that you don't take a 10 or 20 yr old enthusiast car to a high priced shop. The fluids, brakes and shocks can be done in one Saturday for like 900.

I paid more than this guy for my mtechnic in worse shape and based on the work I've done I think most would state it's the cleanest one they've ever seen.

[Kaotik_Life]

Stop bitching guys.
If the car is not up to your expectations just don't buy it. I bought an '89 vert last year to start my project and paid 4k for it. The car needs to be stripped and painted on rotisserie, I need to replace metal bumpers with full M-Tech, replace engine for S50B32, replace tranny, install coilovers, intall big brakes, replace steering column, install new interior, replace hood and windshield, build custom exhaust and replace roof.

I already got my hands on some BBS RS I paid 2.2k for.

If you're going to buy a classic, don't expect it to be in showroom condition for under 20k. You may find a very clean one for 10-15k.

Now, can the owner of this beauty please contact me? I'd like to buy her.

[Cha Ching]

Barry, my power top works nearly perfectly. If I replaced the straps so the top would crease properly, it would be 100%. Now back to our normal FS thread shenanigans....

[Wild Ride]

I'm also going to venture that wild ride is not a DIY type of gal.

I'm a huge DIY guy and am in the middle of a motor swap right now on my buddies car and have done several head gaskets,parted out 3 cars, Fully restored an e30 from the ground up, done a full interior redye etc etc. I think you are referring to DMS. Its ok to not be a DIY guy, it just means you have a different perspective when purchasing and maintaining a car.

Interesting discussion to be had in a FS thread. I agree with Cha Ching back to the FS thread.

[flyboyx]

No, you don't. It has a 5-speed. I also don't have any interest in paying such a premium for incredibly low mileage. Read my WTB post before assuming you have exactly what I want...

I also don't want/need a hardtop. Nor is that one of my preferred color combos.

I don't mind 200k miles as long as the car has been cared for... and it shows.

i just read through this complete thread. apparently in your noobish mind, you are trying to gain some kind of notoriety by doing the community a favor with your "whistle blowing". i guess the theory of your efforts are admirable, but all of your efforts have done nothing more than make you appear to come across as a complete whinny assed douche. these posts you have made in this thread reflect poorly on you. unless you have something of value to say, you really need to clean your vagina and stop posting here. it really doesn't sound like you have any idea what e30's are all about. there must be an audi forum somewhere that will tolerate your queefing?

judging by all of your comments and some of your other posts, it appears that your price range is around 4 to 5k. thats all well and good, but don't expect to find an mtech 2 car in that price range that meets your criteria. you simply won't find that here. period.

fyi: mtech 2 cars are worth roughly double the price of a similar condition e30 cabrio. however, since you are a noob, we can't expect you to know this. instead of trashing the op because his car doesn't meet your unrealistic expectations(for a given price range) or others in the future, do some research first.

you have made yourself look really stupid in this thread. with all due respect, we will expect better from you in the future.

[turge]

WildRide's thoughts echo mine as well. You're buying a 25 year old car that is original and tired. Most of that stuff on the list is maintenance related. I pretty much laugh at that list. Did they measure tire tread depth as well? brake pad thickness? That's really nitpicking for a PPI of a 25 year old car and they did a great job but take it for what it's worth. To you it was a deal breaker but to many of us, that's leverage to get a better price and a weekend worth of work tops. Just not a big deal as you make it seem and the thing is you are just going by what Chris says so you yourself can't form your own opinion on it. Anyway, goodluck with your search.

Shit... using that shops "standard" my car would already be in the junkyard. Hell, Constantine's car is way cleaner then mine and I've seen it in person as well.

i just read through this complete thread. apparently in your noobish mind, you are trying to gain some kind of notoriety by doing the community a favor with your "whistle blowing". i guess the theory of your efforts are admirable, but you have made one hell of an effort to come across as a complete whinny assed douche. these posts you have made in this thread reflect poorly on you. unless you have something of value to say, you really need to clean your vagina and stop posting here. it really doesn't sound like you have any idea what e30's are all about. there must be an audi forum somewhere that will tolerate your queefing?

judging by all of your comments, it really sounds like you want a mint car for the price the op is asking for his builder car. you won't find that here.

fyi: mtech 2 cars are worth pretty much double the price of a similar condition e30 cabrio. however, since you are a noob, we can't expect you to know this.

:rofl:

Well said. lol

[DMSBimmer]

I sincerely hope someone will do me the favor of answering a question I've already posed a couple of times...

If this car is such a hot deal... WHY HASN'T ANYONE BOUGHT IT YET?

If you choose to defend a dishonest seller simply because they have "clout" on this forum, you are a fool or a cheat. If you've seen the car in person and think it to be just fine... have you driven and/or performed a PPI on said vehicle?

I have owned a 1987 535is (among several other vehicles) for nearly ten years, and am sufficiently familiar with E30s. My budget is not fixed at $4-5k by any means. It is entirely dependent upon the specific car in question. If a car is worth $4-5k, and it fits my criteria, I will buy it. If meeting my criteria requires $8k, then sobeit.

My problem is the fact that the seller misrepresented the automobile to fit my criteria. It just so happens the car is being sold at a price of $4.5k. Perhaps what you think to be "acceptable" is entirely unacceptable to someone with the means to address it. I have attended classic car shows, auto auctions, car club meetings, etc. since I was very young. What is "ratty" to one person may be "concours" to another. My tastes and attention to detail are more refined, so I respect the opinions of those with similar thoughts (Chris at LJI). When a seller presents a car to me as being in "excellent condition", I expect it to at least meet my definition of "okay". This car is not even near "okay" according to Chris.

The auto sales transaction breaks down when someone (typically the seller) lies. Private party auto sales rely upon honesty to make any sense for both parties. If the seller wants a better price for his/her car than he would get trading in to a dealer, he/she should sell honestly to a private party. If the buyer wants a better deal than at a dealer, he or she must find a vehicle that meets their needs from a private seller. The only way to mitigate dishonesty is a PPI or personal expertise. A PPI from a noted expert tells me this car is not worth $4.5k.

I suggest many of you Google the word "couth" and consider trying it out sometime. Stop assuming "Noobie" next to a username means "pimple-faced 16 year old" (no offense to those of you!). I'm a practicing physician in my 30s with two children. I'll bet most of you making immature insulting/derrogatory comments wouldn't have half of enough balls to say them to my face.

[Julien]

Can't believe no one has said this DMS you're a giant douche, gtfo of this thread


xoxo

[Skunkworks]

If i had the money I would fly to Chicago to tell you you were a douche to your face. In my opinion you need a free trip on the banwagon for thread crapping.

Btw I'm sure your "expert" was likely low balling it hoping that you would buy it and have him repair it.

[frankenbeemer]

I sincerely hope someone will do me the favor of answering a question I've already posed a couple of times...

If this car is such a hot deal... WHY HASN'T ANYONE BOUGHT IT YET?

I'll attempt to answer your question if you will answer this:

Why would a person of knowledge and means (as you describe yourself) offer $1000 for an m-technic cabrio, then try to crap on the seller when he rejects the ridiculous offer?

[flyboyx]

I sincerely hope someone will do me the favor of answering a question I've already posed a couple of times...

If this car is such a hot deal... WHY HASN'T ANYONE BOUGHT IT YET?

If you choose to defend a dishonest seller simply because they have "clout" on this forum, you are a fool or a cheat. If you've seen the car in person and think it to be just fine... have you driven and/or performed a PPI on said vehicle?

I have owned a 1987 535is (among several other vehicles) for nearly ten years, and am sufficiently familiar with E30s. My budget is not fixed at $4-5k by any means. It is entirely dependent upon the specific car in question. If a car is worth $4-5k, and it fits my criteria, I will buy it. If meeting my criteria requires $8k, then sobeit.

My problem is the fact that the seller misrepresented the automobile to fit my criteria. It just so happens the car is being sold at a price of $4.5k. Perhaps what you think to be "acceptable" is entirely unacceptable to someone with the means to address it. I have attended classic car shows, auto auctions, car club meetings, etc. since I was very young. What is "ratty" to one person may be "concours" to another. My tastes and attention to detail are more refined, so I respect the opinions of those with similar thoughts (Chris at LJI). When a seller presents a car to me as being in "excellent condition", I expect it to at least meet my definition of "okay". This car is not even near "okay" according to Chris.

The auto sales transaction breaks down when someone (typically the seller) lies. Private party auto sales rely upon honesty to make any sense for both parties. If the seller wants a better price for his/her car than he would get trading in to a dealer, he/she should sell honestly to a private party. If the buyer wants a better deal than at a dealer, he or she must find a vehicle that meets their needs from a private seller. The only way to mitigate dishonesty is a PPI or personal expertise. A PPI from a noted expert tells me this car is not worth $4.5k.

I suggest many of you Google the word "couth" and consider trying it out sometime. Stop assuming "Noobie" next to a username means "pimple-faced 16 year old" (no offense to those of you!). I'm a practicing physician in my 30s with two children. I'll bet most of you making immature insulting/derrogatory comments wouldn't have half of enough balls to say them to my face.

hey jack ass:


i am certainly not defending the seller. i do not know him and i have never seen his car. what we are trying to tell you is that you are being a complete fucking asshole. we don't allow people to shit on other's threads here. that is in reality what your misguided efforts are doing.

eventually, his car will sell to the right person for the right price. perhaps that number is 4k or 3500? who knows?

you are obviously one of those little guys with a really small penis that needs to prove everyone that you are right and get the last word. no one here gives a fuck about your age or what you do for a living. more small penis stuff. by saying that, you are just making yourself look like more of a dick. you still don't know jack shit about these cars and you are still a fucking noob asshole. i will be more than happy to fly up there to chicago and say all of this and more to your face, you little penis chugger. just give me your address.

did you actually fly out to san deigo and see the car for yourself? it doesn't sound like it. more likely, you simply had the owner drive it out to the shop for the ppi?

if you have not seen the car with your own eyes, you really need to shut the fuck up.