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    #46
    Originally posted by bmwstephen View Post
    interesting... but does PSI pressure of a spray gun vs a spray can affect durability, adhesion?

    so what process would you recommend if I want to paint on an already painted ABS lip that has the following paint history:

    painted silver (I want to change it to single stage black)
    resprayed twice
    has a base and clear
    Air pressure has no affect on durabilty only on asthmatics.
    It has been painted twice already I would strip it all the way down to the plastic, once you start building up that much paint it starts to crack.
    Sand all the paint off.
    Filler primer
    Re sand
    And you can shoot paint right on that

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      #47
      Originally posted by Massimo View Post
      Don't know if you can answer this but one of my strut towers is out of line. Is it cheap, easier, better to get it straitened with a bear chassie apposed to a fully dressed car?
      Dosnt matter, if anything it's better with the parts on that way it can be aligned.
      If your strut tower is out of alignment there might be more related damage.
      Dosnt sound cheap man

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        #48
        Originally posted by oliver.r View Post
        Dosnt matter, if anything it's better with the parts on that way it can be aligned.
        If your strut tower is out of alignment there might be more related damage.
        Dosnt sound cheap man

        yeh there is a tear developing between the strut tower and battery tray. It would be a good few degrees off according to my camber plates. As a stab in the dark what do you think price wise.

        I am guessing 1000-1500.
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          #49
          Originally posted by Massimo View Post
          yeh there is a tear developing between the strut tower and battery tray. It would be a good few degrees off according to my camber plates. As a stab in the dark what do you think price wise.

          I am guessing 1000-1500.
          Depend on how bad it is you got
          Frame rack and set up time
          Pull time
          Paint labor if needed
          If anything has to be removed/installed
          Alignment
          Corrosion protection
          Sean sealer
          Mask for overspray
          Maybe around 1500
          That's a bummer,
          That's also really weird

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            #50
            Well painting and that is not an issues as I will be doing a ground up rebuild which will includ a respray. Yeh it sucks but I am not the kind that just throws a chassie away, because of a little problem.

            Well I supose when I have some free time ill go down to my body shop guy and see what he says.
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              #51
              Originally posted by Massimo View Post
              Well painting and that is not an issues as I will be doing a ground up rebuild which will includ a respray. Yeh it sucks but I am not the kind that just throws a chassie away, because of a little problem.

              Well I supose when I have some free time ill go down to my body shop guy and see what he says.
              thats good to hear. keep it on the road!

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                #52
                Oliver,

                I have heard that it is also easy to blend single stage finishes, especially when it comes to doing spot blends where you don't have to blend the adjacent panels? any truth to this? I

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by bmwstephen View Post
                  Oliver,

                  I have heard that it is also easy to blend single stage finishes, especially when it comes to doing spot blends where you don't have to blend the adjacent panels? any truth to this? I
                  nope, getting a color match in single stage paints is more difficult since you dont have difirent shades to accoun for difirently aging vehicles.

                  its the exact opposite

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                    #54
                    single stage versus base/clears

                    As I understood it, the single stage was cheaper to shoot and was easier to blend or match should future repairs be needed. Since you are saying that a single stage is harder to blend, how about the cost differences?

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                      #55
                      My understanding is that black ir white single stage be easier to blend than something like red, grey, and other medium colors

                      -Blame my typos on my fat fingers & Droid Charge

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by SteveJ View Post
                        As I understood it, the single stage was cheaper to shoot and was easier to blend or match should future repairs be needed. Since you are saying that a single stage is harder to blend, how about the cost differences?
                        single stage paint is more economical to paint since it is a much faster process, there is no flash time to shoot clear, single stage paint is very economical and is a good option to refinish a complete car at a economical price
                        its not really hard or impossible to get a exact color match with single stage but the problem is that the color has to be tinted so it is not possible to replicate as opposed to a base/clear paint that has a set formula

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by bmwstephen View Post
                          My understanding is that black ir white single stage be easier to blend than something like red, grey, and other medium colors

                          -Blame my typos on my fat fingers & Droid Charge
                          dosnt matter if its single stage or base clear, black and white are the easiest colors to match, any other color gets more complicated

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                            #58
                            Thanks for the info Oliver.

                            I'm prepping my Henna red M3 for a full repaint. I've got all the trim off, bumpers, rockers, trunk lid, fuel door, sunroof, side windows, etc...just need to pull the rear glass.

                            What is your opinion on leaving the doors on for the repaint?
                            The door jambs (both body and door) are in really good shape. I figure the color match would not be noticeable on the door side of the jambs, but possibly the body side should be shot?

                            What about leaving the front fenders and the hood in place? Advantages? disadvantages? Total pain in the arse for the bodyshop?

                            Thanks for your insight.

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                              #59
                              i think taking the fenders off really helps too. the gap between the fenders and door can be tricky. and also the A pillar.

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                                #60
                                Originally posted by SteveJ View Post
                                Thanks for the info Oliver.

                                I'm prepping my Henna red M3 for a full repaint. I've got all the trim off, bumpers, rockers, trunk lid, fuel door, sunroof, side windows, etc...just need to pull the rear glass.

                                What is your opinion on leaving the doors on for the repaint?
                                The door jambs (both body and door) are in really good shape. I figure the color match would not be noticeable on the door side of the jambs, but possibly the body side should be shot?

                                What about leaving the front fenders and the hood in place? Advantages? disadvantages? Total pain in the arse for the bodyshop?

                                Thanks for your insight.
                                There's really no benefit to taking off the fenders and hood, unless you were painting the jambs, if the jambs are in good shape I wouldn't recommend pairing them, it will cost more and take longer.
                                Hope this helped.
                                Btw want to sell it?

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