collision repair and auto painting

[oliver.r]

bingo! the answer i was looking, so if anyone quotes less for a solid paint job you are bound to run into issues in just a year

very possible, it sounds like you want a very high quality paint job and the most important part is the surface repair, witch is a concept that you completely understand.
whoever does your car will most likley do a good job for you now that you are armed with this knowledge

[oliver.r]

http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=247401

someone buy my car

[bmwstephen]

very possible, it sounds like you want a very high quality paint job and the most important part is the surface repair, witch is a concept that you completely understand.
whoever does your car will most likley do a good job for you now that you are armed with this knowledge

thanks for the kind words. I got a long way to go now that I have 3 resprays/blends worth of paint I need to take off somehow because I want my next and final respray to be as perfect as possible so I'm saving up for that while learning tons from you!

[oliver.r]

thanks for the kind words. I got a long way to go now that I have 3 resprays/blends worth of paint I need to take off somehow because I want my next and final respray to be as perfect as possible so I'm saving up for that while learning tons from you!

holy jezze, thats a lot of resprays

[bmwstephen]

holy jezze, thats a lot of resprays

you know its that bad and costly when you have a professional estimator react like that

[oliver.r]

haha sounds scary

[bmwstephen]

oliver, can you describe the process of blocking and sealing a car? I'm not use to the body shop lingo.

I'm only familiar with sanding the existing paint and slapping new paint

[oliver.r]

oliver, can you describe the process of blocking and sealing a car? I'm not use to the body shop lingo.

I'm only familiar with sanding the existing paint and slapping new paint

block sanding is done only when body work has been done to a panel.
for example;
you have a dent on the middle of your door.
dent is repaired but its slightly off the shape of the rest of the door.
you filler primer it then use a sanding block to sand it down nice and even then you re primer it.

sealer if a primer used immidietly before paint is applied to a vehicle to provide a uniform color

[bmwstephen]

interesting...

so if the body was pretty much straight and a car is going in for a respray, does that mean the car will simply get the existing paint sanded/scuffed before being sprayed?

[bmwstephen]

regarding your two stage paint package at your shop. what paint service/method is involved in it?

[oliver.r]

interesting...

so if the body was pretty much straight and a car is going in for a respray, does that mean the car will simply get the existing paint sanded/scuffed before being sprayed?

yup, you CAN do a fille primer on the whole thing and block it but that is one of those above and beyond steps to make it perfect

[oliver.r]

regarding your two stage paint package at your shop. what paint service/method is involved in it?

we have to diferent ones, one is a regulare base clear and the other is a base coat with a performance clearcoat, it is a very very high quality clear that lays thicker and smoother andlast longer, its all around better,
we dont do packages. pretty much the paint is at a set price and we give you multiple options when it comes to the sealers and amount of surface repair you want on the car, all of that affect the price.

the biggest reason we dont do packages is because every car is diferent and its not something that should be standardised

[bmwstephen]

yup, you CAN do a fille primer on the whole thing and block it but that is one of those above and beyond steps to make it perfect

but to do that above and beyond step, does the car have to be down to the metal? I can't imagine how beneficial that process would be on existing paint especially if the paint is inferior to the new paint thats going on it.

Also what is the purpose of sealer? I'm aware that primer is the medium between the metal and new paint.

[oliver.r]

but to do that above and beyond step, does the car have to be down to the metal? I can't imagine how beneficial that process would be on existing paint especially if the paint is inferior to the new paint thats going on it.

Also what is the purpose of sealer? I'm aware that primer is the medium between the metal and new paint.

i would for sure recommend taking it down to the bare metal, its a more reliable finish.

there are vairous types of primers.
filler, apoxy, sealer

filler primer is to repair inperfections in the surface like very small chips and minor sanding scrathces.

apoxy primer is used on bare metal to provide a good adhesive surface for the sealer primer.

sealer primer provides a uniform color so when you put the actual paint on top its not all blochy and odd looking on the panels. think of it as pirmer for house paint, it does the same thing

[bmwstephen]

when you are taking cars down to the metal like the 2002 you are working on for example. for the most part I see that you've done a great job judging by the pictures. But i'm curious in areas where the picture doesnt show such as the edge of the doors, fenders, area of the A-Pillar that's covered by the fenders, etc... where paint can reach around. How do you go about prepping/sanding those areas for paint when you don't remove them off the frame in the first place?

In my experience, those tend to be the weak points cause they don't have a big enough surface or even surface for the paint to bond better