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It is possible, but to take full advantage of the features offered by ms3x it would render the factory harness partially useless. You would also have the mess of an extra wire harness running to the engine. Up to you.
Rich's PNP s14 ms3x has an auxiliary harness running out of it, adding sequential fuel capability and COP functionality. First time this combination has been asked of me. This has been accomplished with ms2 and almost every 4 cylinder engine that has seen MS. However, Richard wanted more. He wanted the added options ms3x offers, like native USB connectivity, on board SD card data logging, and tons of extra I/Os to control the random devices in his bay, all fit inside of a factory DME unit. The largest box I found was the early 325e DME, which has the same motronic 1.0 connector as the s14 harness. The box was heavily modified to accept the pcb 3.0, ms3, and the expansion board.
For instance, his m3 does not have A/C installed. Instead, I chose to use the A/C button to trigger data logging to the SD card. I'm not going to advertise the ms3x here, but you get the point.
This is my recommendation: In order to use what ms3x has to offer with an m20, it would be better to use ms3x with the m50 harness retrofitted on to the m20. You will then have enough wires in a low-cost, reliable, factory wiring harness to run sequential COP and Fuel, and to take full advantage all the awesome features ms3x has to offer. Check out chris325ix's thread on e30tech about how he did this, with LSx CNP coils.
Fitting this all inside of a box that looks factory is a story for another day. I am currently researching what other legs of the market have to offer, other than MS, since all further MS development has become a private ordeal.
Derek
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That is certainly possible, but involves a little more electrical work on the consumer end than I would expect for a PnP type ecu install. Perhaps there is interest in a semi-PnP conversion? I can build an aux harness that will poke into the 55pin connector, it will just be a bit more involved. That's a good idea actually.
There are 16 unused pins, which gives us some room for expansion. I may experiment with this.
Derek
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Are you still selling this setup?sigpic
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^ +11990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
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Production will resume for EMS components and related systems on Aug.1. My apologies for the hold up. We ran into problems with the building inspectors after the move, so much of my equipment is still stuck in storage, and will be until the building issues are resolved.
I'm currently working on the design of a pnp ms3-pro for the 24v engines. Stay tuned ;)
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Originally posted by blueapplesoda View PostProduction will resume for EMS components and related systems on Aug.1. My apologies for the hold up. We ran into problems with the building inspectors after the move, so much of my equipment is still stuck in storage, and will be until the building issues are resolved.
I'm currently working on the design of a pnp ms3-pro for the 24v engines. Stay tuned ;)sigpicFellow e30 enthusiast
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As soon as I sell some stuff I'll be looking at one of these for sure for an M20. Do you have a base tune for a turbo with ~34# injectors?1990 325i Touring - The Bonsai Bimmer - Patiently Waiting
1984 316 Coupe - The Base Model - Pain in the Ass
1988 750iL - The Daily Driver
...And a couple others...
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Now for the Updates!
-MS3 PnP systems are now available for m20, m30, m50nv.
-MS2 PnP systems are now available without the TPS and IAT sensors to make them comparable in pricing with competitors.
-PnP wideband systems have been updated to the streamlined SLC wideband controllers, for use with LSU 4.2 or LSU 4.9 sensors. Meant for use with megasquirt or any standalone, (o2 feedback, closed loop) but can be used with a standalone WB gauge or with the factory ECU (narrowband simulator option)
-Moved to a new location in Monterey Park, CA.
-Derek
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