S50 Is dead thanks to TRM.

[BMW_TUNER]

Delete- Matter will be resolved privately as I should have done from the start.

[mattdk318i]

Throw a fit! Sorry Ryan. There was no way for you to know that chip wasnt legit. Esp if you ordered the "correct" one

[e30s52]

Get trm to buy me a new bottom end and money for my troubles

[Farbin Kaiber]

I'd at least have the burn verified before throwing around claims of product misrepresentation...

[Massive Lee]

Contact TRM. If they don't know, they can't help.

Chips are specific to injectors capacity. Verify if your TRM chip matches your injectors. Are the injectors leaking?

[mattdk318i]

Matt Should be here in a few hopefully

[416stroker]

just cut the crank and slap new bearings in it. If it even needs that.

[flyboyx]

that sucks. i can say from experience that fuel in the oil will screw up your bottom end in a hurry. not to offend you, but there could be some liability on your part for running the engine that way for some period of time. assuming that you had a good set of rings to begin with, i would have to think it would take quite a while to get that much fuel around the pistons. not to say that it isn't possible, but i actually have a hard time imagining the scenario. did you ever check your oil level during the period you were troubleshooting your fuel issues? if the injectors were dumping that much fuel, i am trying to picture the volume of smoke coming out of your exhaust when you were running it.

when i was in high school, i had a carbureted camaro. i checked the oil one day and noticed it was really high on the stick but didn't think anything about it. about 200 miles later, the oil light came on, but the damage was done and my rods were knocking. in this case the sbc had a diaphragm fuel pump mounted to the side of the block which was leaking fuel into the sump. i tell you this story, simply because i can feel your pain. not to say that your story and mine are the same but in my case, i had no one to blame but my own inexperienced stupidity.

edit: as i was writing this, i noticed your entry just above this one. you mention the rings are polished. how did you determine this? have you torn the engine apart? what do polished rings look like? did you do a compression check? how about a leak down?

[Massive Lee]

Conforti/TMS would have resulted in non of these problems but I just wanted to support small business. Sadly I pay the price.

I think you are assuming too many things, too early. Are you a professional licenced BMW mechanic, or race engine builder? You should call TRM first before spreading rumours, that if unfounded, can have detrimental effect on a good company. Call them first.

[sharksforthecup]

I think you are assuming too many things, too early. Are you a professional licenced BMW mechanic, or race engine builder? You should call TRM first before spreading rumours, that if unfounded, can have detrimental effect on a good company. Call them first.

+1 sorry that happened to you, but I agree with lee.

Also, there chip works great for me.

[flyboyx]

we are not picking on you, but.....
matt is a respected member of this community. i do not know him well and have only pm'd with him and talked on the phone a couple of times.
there is a chance that he made a mistake and that would really suck, but did you contact him first and discuss this issue before making a post like that? in my opinion, that would be the honorable thing to do. i understand you are pissed and looking for someone to blame.

something else to think about.....fuel injectors will only flow so much for a given rating. how much more fuel will an injector flow with any given chip upgrade? 10%? i don't think it could be much more than that but i don't know. i see on your invoice, you have listed that you are running 24 lb injectors. how sure are you that they are what you think? did you buy them new? did they come from a reputable dealer or were they a used bargain from one of the members?

as i mentioned above, trm could have screwed up your program, but i really wish you would delete this thread, talk to him directly about it, think about it for a couple of days and start over. some of the shittiest things come out when you are upset.

brian

[techno550]

Unlikely (impossible) that it is a turbo tune.

1. If the tune were for a turbo car it wouldn't start/run as it would be for 30, 42, or 60 lb/hr injectors. If it did start/run it would be extremely lean, not rich.

2. If it did start/run/drive and adapt enough to be OK, it would also be OK at WOT. the fuel maps are relative and adaptation effects all operating modes (idle, part throttle, and WOT). i.e. if it is ok at part throttle, it'd be in the 11's at WOT, and you can do that all day long every day.



On the tune itself, the chips are burned based on the specs provided. The combination here (24 lb/hr injectors, 540 MAF, S50 with S50 cams, stock intake manifold, 91 octane fuel) is a very common one in California. We have not had any issues. The software and calibration in the chip are burned, verified, and then tested again to verify the integrity and speed of the eprom. The chip should have a SN and the specs on its tag.

What hardware is on the car currently? Which MAF and what injectors? Pairing the tune with a different MAF or injectors will yield undesirable results. If the chip ran like crap in a stock M3, then thats good, because it should. Any improper combination of parts or bad parts will cause problems.

Usually the ECU, if unhappy, will tell you why. MAF codes and injector codes point to MAF or injector problems, or a mismatch of parts. Bad MAF reading or sticking injectors can overfuel the car.

If you feel that there was an error in the calibration then you can email or PM me the chips serial number and I can verify the targeted parts, or you can send it back and we can re-verify the chip.

[416stroker]

BTW my old oil is flamible like look out that shit is (dangerous flammable ) I would have to say there is a problem.

you sure you didnt break a ring? It dosent sound like trm fucked up. you injector had to be sticking or you broke a ring if theres that much fuel in there. You didnt keep tabs on your oil durring break in WTF.

[jrhaile]

TRM blowing an engine??!?!? NO WAIIII! Never heard of such a thing :rolleyes

OP, sorry about your misfortune. More reasons why I would never do business with Mike and his "gang" at TRM. Only person there who has ever had any respect is Brett.

[jrhaile]

I will be returning the chip. The car is setup as listed. The injectors maf and others parts are all known to be good. The e36 m3 it went into is setup identical to mine so that is not an issue. The map seemed fine until. 5500 plus rpm. When the turner chip was used it resulted in perfect driving characteristics but the underlying damage had been done. The chip runs so much fuel up top that I doubt that any car could burn it. The codes where triggered by the extreme duty cycle of the injectors causing run issues that the DME could not deal with and it resulted in reading out of the parameters. I went over my order in person on the phone and explained my cars setup my concerns and all other factors involved in the tuning. Also I live in Nevada not CA. I am not posting in an attemt to discredit your company but I am posting as this is a community I belong to and I would hate for someone in my community to have to go through what I am dealing with right now. Your chip may work well in theory in GA but I am telling you that in Reno Nevada it pushed nearly a quart of gas into my oil. Test and retest all the parameters you want but in the real world that I live in I have blowby and rod knock on an engine that was fully rebuilt. I have emailed TRM @ the contact provided on the website.

Before you return it, make a copy. THere are places that can copy eproms for cheap. Do this for your protection incase they try to pawn off the blame on something else.