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  • SamE30e
    R3V Elite
    • Sep 2007
    • 4319

    #1

    Using E36 Exhaust

    Hey,

    Has anyone used the E36 exhaust with the raceland (Superspring replica) long tube headers?

    What's required?
    Do the hangers line up?
    Where do you shorten?

    I have this picture, which I think is a 325i exhaust.



    Sam
    Last edited by SamE30e; 08-06-2010, 12:12 PM.
    1985 325e 2.8 Turbo VEMS
  • R&D man
    Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 79

    #2
    Which part of ontario are you from

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    • Dissembler
      Advanced Member
      • Jul 2008
      • 153

      #3
      Maybe the obd 1 exhausts are different, but long tube headers+obd II exhaust doesnot fit properly. In thecase of obd II, although it could be used, the e36 exhaust will require it to be lengthened before the cats and shortened just before the muffler. The flanges will have to be cut off and relocated to just before that first 45 degree bend

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      • SamE30e
        R3V Elite
        • Sep 2007
        • 4319

        #4
        Hmmm, would it be easier to weld up a E30 325i exhaust?

        And I'm from Mississauga.
        1985 325e 2.8 Turbo VEMS

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        • hoveringuy
          R3VLimited
          • Dec 2005
          • 2679

          #5
          Here's how mine fit with OBD2 manifolds. I later switched to euro headers and just needed to cut another foot or so off the midpipes. Wasn't too difficult. OBD2 mids are better than OBD1.
          Attached Files

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          • e30pq
            E30 Addict
            • Apr 2006
            • 579

            #6
            I used the OBDI cats into an E36 M3 Remus Cat Back.

            Here are a couple of videos so you can hear how it sounds. The first is on the street the second is autocrossing.



            San Diego BMWCCA autocross 2-20-2010, 1989 S50 powered E30 convertible, timed run #1, filmed with Flip Ultra HD camera

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            • dude8383
              Forum Sponsor
              • Jan 2005
              • 10387

              #7
              Originally posted by e30pq
              I used the OBDI cats into an E36 M3 Remus Cat Back.

              Here are a couple of videos so you can hear how it sounds. The first is on the street the second is autocrossing.



              http://vimeo.com/9639079
              Heh, I've got the same exact setup :)

              I think your coding plug is wrong though...noticed your idle is like 1.5k.
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              • SamE30e
                R3V Elite
                • Sep 2007
                • 4319

                #8
                Originally posted by hoveringuy
                Here's how mine fit with OBD2 manifolds. I later switched to euro headers and just needed to cut another foot or so off the midpipes. Wasn't too difficult. OBD2 mids are better than OBD1.
                Yeah, I don't like how that brace isn't able to fit though. I'm thinking an E30 i exhaust. But I don't know how much room I have to play with to connect it at the front pipes.
                1985 325e 2.8 Turbo VEMS

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                • Spaz
                  Crazy Canuck
                  • Oct 2003
                  • 2276

                  #9
                  Originally posted by hoveringuy
                  Here's how mine fit with OBD2 manifolds. I later switched to euro headers and just needed to cut another foot or so off the midpipes. Wasn't too difficult. OBD2 mids are better than OBD1.
                  Damn that looks like it was jammed up there high, lots of ground clearance, do you notice any loss in rigidity of the body without the middle cross brace?

                  -Cam
                  Cam .W '91 325is

                  Spaz's 1991 Alpine White???? S52 Build Thread...

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                  • hoveringuy
                    R3VLimited
                    • Dec 2005
                    • 2679

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Spaz
                    Damn that looks like it was jammed up there high, lots of ground clearance, do you notice any loss in rigidity of the body without the middle cross brace?

                    -Cam
                    It is way up there. It's on my list to fit the brace in there, I haven't noticed a difference, but I have a front subframe x-brace, too.

                    Eventually I want a track pipe just to save weight. I'm guessing a 2 into 1 merge after the headers with a single 2 1/2 all the way back would save around 40lbs.

                    The OBD2 stuff is HEAVY!

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                    • Spaz
                      Crazy Canuck
                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2276

                      #11
                      Had a thought,

                      Could you move the entire center section further back past the cross brace and then fab up from the cats forward? The entrance to the cats would start right near the between the rear seat foot well and front frame rail.

                      Obviously the rear section would have to be changed and mated as well.

                      -Cam
                      Cam .W '91 325is

                      Spaz's 1991 Alpine White???? S52 Build Thread...

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                      • M-technik-3
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18946

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Spaz
                        Had a thought,

                        Could you move the entire center section further back past the cross brace and then fab up from the cats forward? The entrance to the cats would start right near the between the rear seat foot well and front frame rail.

                        Obviously the rear section would have to be changed and mated as well.

                        -Cam
                        at that point the cats would not be getting all that hot and would become ineffective.
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                        • Spaz
                          Crazy Canuck
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 2276

                          #13
                          Originally posted by M-technik-3
                          at that point the cats would not be getting all that hot and would become ineffective.
                          Yea, i saw this as a potential issue as well... oh well.
                          Cam .W '91 325is

                          Spaz's 1991 Alpine White???? S52 Build Thread...

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                          • lifeiskaos
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 1709

                            #14
                            Originally posted by hoveringuy
                            Here's how mine fit with OBD2 manifolds. I later switched to euro headers and just needed to cut another foot or so off the midpipes. Wasn't too difficult. OBD2 mids are better than OBD1.
                            Why is that? As far as I knew, OBD2 midpipes are dual walled and have a smaller inner diameter.

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                            • matt
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 3731

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lifeiskaos
                              Why is that? As far as I knew, OBD2 midpipes are dual walled and have a smaller inner diameter.
                              They are dual walled, but the inner diameter is the same or larger than the OBD1 version, and they don't have that nasty little merge going into the catalyst.

                              Whatever the size (bigger is not always better) they definitely flow better than OBD1 midpipes.

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