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  • SwiftE30
    E30 Modder
    • Jun 2010
    • 998

    #16
    subscribed. i'm having this exact same problem. I have tried almost everything. Having a friend come over this weekend with another red label ECU ( i have red label 413 also right now) to see if mine is bad. If thats not the problem then im at the point where i am going to get a new harness and start over.
    1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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    • mohamadr89
      Wrencher
      • Mar 2011
      • 282

      #17
      ***update**** now when we jump the fuel pump it's not getting a spark


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      • MattM
        E30 Modder
        • Apr 2009
        • 931

        #18
        go through and double check all sensors are hooked up properly! specifically cam position sensor, and crank position sensor

        its easy to mix some of them up, i did it the first time i put my harness back on... but i just got a plume of white smoke when i turned the key...lulz

        Also, make sure all your grounds and power wires are hooked up, its just as easy to miss a red wire in the battery box area...
        Last edited by MattM; 08-30-2011, 09:33 PM.


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        • Schwarz325
          E30 Addict
          • Aug 2009
          • 487

          #19
          Are all the wires connected to the junction on the firewall? all the grounds including the chassis ground on the passenger side?

          what did the 413 come out of? if it's out of a 325, i wonder if you need a chip burned for the m3 motor?

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          • Myster-E
            Performance
            • May 2009
            • 552

            #20
            Originally posted by Schwarz325
            Are all the wires connected to the junction on the firewall? all the grounds including the chassis ground on the passenger side?

            what did the 413 come out of? if it's out of a 325, i wonder if you need a chip burned for the m3 motor?
            S50 and M50 chips are different, but an M50 chip will run an S50
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            • SwiftE30
              E30 Modder
              • Jun 2010
              • 998

              #21
              Originally posted by Schwarz325
              Are all the wires connected to the junction on the firewall? all the grounds including the chassis ground on the passenger side?

              what did the 413 come out of? if it's out of a 325, i wonder if you need a chip burned for the m3 motor?
              i was always under the impression that if it was a red label 413 it didnt need any sort of chip. Is this not true? What would the chip eliminate?
              1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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              • Adrian_Visser
                R3VLimited
                • Jun 2006
                • 2823

                #22
                There needs to be an EPROM chip in the DME. What you are confusing is whether or not it has to be a chip with EWS removed.

                '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                • SwiftE30
                  E30 Modder
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 998

                  #23
                  So without this EPROM chip, an obd1 s52 would not run? Would it do anything once
                  All wiring is hooked up and adapter installed? Currently mine just cranks and cranks but nothing more.
                  1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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                  • mohamadr89
                    Wrencher
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 282

                    #24
                    im going my car to somebody that will figure it out on monday. i will keep everybody updated on what the problem is


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                    http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/pict...pictureid=7968
                    check out my donut vid
                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw0paUP1FEQ

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                    • Jafxod
                      E30 Fanatic
                      • May 2011
                      • 1301

                      #25
                      Are you sure your grounds/hot's are connected right? That will give you issues like this

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                      • mohamadr89
                        Wrencher
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 282

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Jafxod
                        Are you sure your grounds/hot's are connected right? That will give you issues like this
                        he checked everything and still nothing. today should be the day i find out for sure.


                        mtech 2 325ic
                        http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/pict...pictureid=7968
                        check out my donut vid
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw0paUP1FEQ

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                        • SwiftE30
                          E30 Modder
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 998

                          #27
                          yes! Please let us know. I'm dying to find out. good luck
                          1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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                          • Adrian_Visser
                            R3VLimited
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 2823

                            #28
                            Originally posted by SwiftE30
                            So without this EPROM chip, an obd1 s52 would not run? Would it do anything once
                            All wiring is hooked up and adapter installed? Currently mine just cranks and cranks but nothing more.
                            Crack open your DME then and see if someone removed the chip.

                            '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                            • 328ijunkie
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                              • May 2007
                              • 3961

                              #29
                              It would crank forever but yeah never fire. Crank position sensor also causes this symptom.

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                              • SwiftE30
                                E30 Modder
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 998

                                #30
                                the DME has never been opened. and the eprom chip is still there. all the sensors, ecu and harness came from the same car. i jusr read this thread, and post #78 sounds like it might solve my problem, but they are talking about a pre-88 e30. http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...36#post1216936

                                I'm thinking i would like to pick up a new cam and crank sensor, and ecu, then eliminate each one individually to see if one or the other is bad.
                                1989 E30 Zinnoberrot Vert 325i OBD1 S52 turbo;IP

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