Torque setting for the intake mani?

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  • e30rapidic
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    • Oct 2003
    • 2167

    #16
    Originally posted by MR 325
    It's called knowing what the fuck you're doing.

    I'm not joking, your reply had me laughing out loud here at work. I can promise you I've layed hands on more E30's than you can dream of with no ill results. Believe in your exhaust manifold torque specs and leave the real work to the big boys.
    wow Is this Jordan??

    I do know what I'm doing on more than just e30's. I'm not going to argue with you or get in a pissing match with you over it. Think what you want or hold yourself in as high regard as you care to. Which is obviously pretty high. I've been around all types of cars, race and street, for over 30 years. First worked on an e30 in 1987.

    When our plane gets its annual inspection each year....you better damn believe that we have everything done by the manufacturers specs....that includes torque values. FAA mandate.

    Based on your responses, I am beginning to think you really are a misplaced redneck. The big boy comment?? wow haha
    '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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    • mattdk318i
      No R3VLimiter
      • Jun 2006
      • 3953

      #17
      Its a intake manifold. Thats what made this as big as it is. It has steel inserts molded into the plastic. Torquing that sounds obsurd to a experienced technician.

      PS, I showed one of the other technicians in my shop this(certified BMW mastertech 28 years) and he just giggled.

      BTW, BMW technician here as well.
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      • 10Toes
        Me Father Was A Tree
        • Jan 2008
        • 61222

        #18
        E30=Airplane

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        • mattdk318i
          No R3VLimiter
          • Jun 2006
          • 3953

          #19
          Originally posted by nwvb bmw
          E30=Airplane
          lol

          because serious business?
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          • trackjunkie21
            No R3VLimiter
            • Jan 2010
            • 3962

            #20
            It's not like it takes a few hours to torque it to 20Nm. You guys really can't spare a few seconds on your 'beloved' e30.
            Your signature picture has been removed since it contained the Photobucket "upgrade your account" image.

            Originally posted by Wh33lhop
            VANOS: sometimes you just need to go full retard.

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            • N2MYE30
              R3V Elite
              • Oct 2007
              • 5536

              #21
              Ok, everybody simmer down now.

              True, I didnt spec the intake mani bolts originally and didnt think too but I had a vacuum leak at the 1-3 area. I didnt want to take all apart again and wanted to make sure it was flush against the head...within spec.

              COTM

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              • Myster-E
                Performance
                • May 2009
                • 552

                #22
                Originally posted by e30rapidic
                ya think? Hopefully I'll never have the displeasure of riding in a car you've worked on then. Suspension doesn't matter?? How about lug nuts??? Gotta love warped rotors!! hmm. Flywheel? Pressure plate?? What about anytime you are running a bolt through aluminum? ie exhaust manifold bolts? and no worries about stripping out those oil pan drain plug threads right?


                "they ain't loose or snapped so they gotta be a'ight"
                Tighten quarter turn past loose and cross threads the tightest fit.
                1988 E30 335i - 1987 E30 327i - 1987 E30 327iS Pickup - 1973 2002 Project

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                • samiam3356
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 1901

                  #23
                  Originally posted by AnimalE30
                  Does anyone else have a tough time installing the nut next to the fire wall? Gets me every god damn time.

                  I always put a peice of paper in the socket to hold the nut in good. hand tighten to keep from stripping it out. Works like a charm


                  BTW you can over tighten the manifold and distort the oring's allowing unmetered air in to the engine.

                  Originally posted by Roysneon
                  $5 shipped?
                  Originally posted by MarkD
                  You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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                  • samiam3356
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 1901

                    #24

                    Originally posted by Roysneon
                    $5 shipped?
                    Originally posted by MarkD
                    You are a strange dude, I'n not answering any more posts from you.

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                    • Fusion
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 3658

                      #25
                      My intake manifold requires more torques than your Honda produces.

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                      • MR 325
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37827

                        #26
                        Originally posted by e30rapidic
                        wow Is this Jordan??

                        I do know what I'm doing on more than just e30's. I'm not going to argue with you or get in a pissing match with you over it. Think what you want or hold yourself in as high regard as you care to. Which is obviously pretty high. I've been around all types of cars, race and street, for over 30 years. First worked on an e30 in 1987.

                        When our plane gets its annual inspection each year....you better damn believe that we have everything done by the manufacturers specs....that includes torque values. FAA mandate.

                        Based on your responses, I am beginning to think you really are a misplaced redneck. The big boy comment?? wow haha
                        If I was Jordan I would have already enjoyed a click of the ban button.

                        E30 don't fly and planes hardly compare to E30 intake and exhaust manifolds. As said, you can go on enjoying your torque spec internet world and I'll continue using common sense and build me some white trash E30s.
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                        • Adrian_Visser
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 2823

                          #27
                          I'm with mr 325, any experienced tech knows torque by feel and doesn't torque every stupid bolt. I do torque lug nuts and flywheel bolts etc but it's ridiculous and time consuming to torque every bolt when your elbow torque is reasonably close.

                          I wrench on 3.5 million dollar fucking helicopters all day and we don't torque every single thing with a torque wrench. Obviously there are some critical items that you don't want to be off on where you use a calibrated torque wrench. But you'd be surprised how close you can get by feel once you've been wrenching a while.

                          '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                          • Adrian_Visser
                            R3VLimited
                            • Jun 2006
                            • 2823

                            #28
                            Originally posted by e30rapidic
                            wow Is this Jordan??

                            I do know what I'm doing on more than just e30's. I'm not going to argue with you or get in a pissing match with you over it. Think what you want or hold yourself in as high regard as you care to. Which is obviously pretty high. I've been around all types of cars, race and street, for over 30 years. First worked on an e30 in 1987.

                            When our plane gets its annual inspection each year....you better damn believe that we have everything done by the manufacturers specs....that includes torque values. FAA mandate.

                            Based on your responses, I am beginning to think you really are a misplaced redneck. The big boy comment?? wow haha
                            So you're telling me you torque every screw on every inspection panel on your cessna? Sure.

                            '89 Alpine S52 with goodies

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                            • Massimo
                              No R3VLimiter
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3207

                              #29
                              Yeh I just torque important stuff like suspension and brakes, head bolts ect. Stuff that wont cause death if it falls off cos it was not tight enough I just do buy guestimate.
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                              • e30rapidic
                                R3VLimited
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 2167

                                #30
                                Originally posted by MR 325
                                If I was Jordan I would have already enjoyed a click of the ban button.
                                Now that I will give you...

                                Originally posted by MR 325
                                E30 don't fly and planes hardly compare to E30 intake and exhaust manifolds. As said, you can go on enjoying your torque spec internet world and I'll continue using common sense and build me some white trash E30s.
                                I'm in disagreement that the only bolts worthy of an accurate torque setting are head/rod bolts. I torque everything related to the engine...especially anything that has a gasket surface or seal and prone to leaks over time. Flywheel bolts and lug nuts are always done...I've never had a warped rotor, even on my racecars.

                                Now the bolts holding the seat down, or the philips head screw holding the front ashtray down? who cares about those as long as they are tight and not rattling?

                                Originally posted by Adrian_Visser
                                I do torque lug nuts and flywheel bolts etc but it's ridiculous and time consuming to torque every bolt when your elbow torque is reasonably close.
                                seconded
                                '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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