My swap M50NV+S50 cams+M52 vanos......

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  • emmanuel.dlc
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2011
    • 144

    #31
    yes NV and Vanos are about 120degree off on the timing

    you def need the vanos damper

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    • amcink
      Mod Crazy
      • Jan 2012
      • 788

      #32
      Originally posted by emmanuel.dlc
      yes NV and Vanos are about 120degree off on the timing

      you def need the vanos damper

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      Thanks for clarifying, I will get it this weekend

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      • Bimmerguy91
        E30 Modder
        • Jul 2012
        • 982

        #33
        Awesome build! I just used dual intake cams on my NV to wake it up some

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        • amcink
          Mod Crazy
          • Jan 2012
          • 788

          #34
          Originally posted by Bimmerguy91
          Awesome build! I just used dual intake cams on my NV to wake it up some
          I was evaluating such solution. However i decided to go S50 cams and vanos to take advantage of the lower end torque for daily drive plus I'm getting a TRM chip off the shelf for $350 which only will work with a vanos engine and S50 cam set up. So if everything goes well I'm expecting a 205 hp engine approximately; until i do a dyno. More to come!

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          • amcink
            Mod Crazy
            • Jan 2012
            • 788

            #35
            Originally posted by emmanuel.dlc
            on the cam shaft sensor, which oring you used?
            Emmanuel
            I used the non vanos oring. I took it off the non vanos cam sensor and install it on the vanos sensor. It fits good only when i screwed back the sensor be careful since it fits tight once the bolt is all in.
            Attached is a photo to compate the oring sizes NV small Vanos green ( too thick)
            Attached Files

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            • Wanganstyle
              R3VLimited
              • Apr 2010
              • 2828

              #36
              Originally posted by Bimmerguy91
              Awesome build! I just used dual intake cams on my NV to wake it up some
              This is an interesting old school take on it -some overlooked issues

              Hard to time properly.

              No knock sensors.



              The most drastic change between the NV and vanos is Knock sensors. This allows computer advance of spark till knock threshold- its an upgrade in processing power also


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              • amcink
                Mod Crazy
                • Jan 2012
                • 788

                #37
                And the surgery begins!!! Should be ready in 2 weeks (due to my work schedule)
                Attached Files

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                • amcink
                  Mod Crazy
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 788

                  #38
                  M20 is out; another step closer to the M50

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                  • LivingLegend06
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 1604

                    #39
                    I'm considering adding Vanos to my M50NV and have a few questions for any of you that have completed this swap.

                    I think I would need:
                    Vanos wiring harness
                    413 DME
                    Vanos unit
                    Vanos valve cover
                    Vanos CPS
                    Vanos vibration dampener

                    What about cams and lifters? Would I just need an M50tu intake cam or would I need both?

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                    • emmanuel.dlc
                      Advanced Member
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 144

                      #40
                      go for s50 cams while you are there (if the budgets allows)

                      vanos maf sensor
                      knock sensors
                      filter housing (as is different because of the vanos line port)

                      that should complete the list.

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                      • amcink
                        Mod Crazy
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 788

                        #41
                        LIVING
                        see my earlier post - you will need S50 cams or M50 cams for vanos - Yes! I used the cams; lifters and trays

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                        • lucidy
                          Noobie
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 29

                          #42
                          Awesome man, I'll be looking forward to see some engine bay pics!

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                          • berlow94
                            E30 Enthusiast
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 1063

                            #43
                            Have fun trying to tune all that with an OBD 1 chip...lol
                            Ask me how i know.
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                            • amcink
                              Mod Crazy
                              • Jan 2012
                              • 788

                              #44
                              Originally posted by berlow94
                              Have fun trying to tune all that with an OBD 1 chip...lol
                              Ask me how i know.
                              This is how is been tuned

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                              • LivingLegend06
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 1604

                                #45
                                Thanks guys. I'm going to start picking up parts tomorrow for a 413 red label and vanos conversion.

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