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  • blackhawkimpact
    R3VLimited
    • Apr 2010
    • 2415

    #1

    Getting BAR'd Certified, Fail... HELP!

    So I'm trying to pass my 91 318is with an s50 to pass the BAR test but I keep failing emissions. First time I took it, I warmed it for about an hour and when I got to the referee I kept it on. I was on stock e36 cats and resonator. First time I failed. 2 months later after I switched the plugs, oil filter I took it again to the referee and I failed again. So I thought I would change the cats. So I got new cats (Walker 80801, Suppose to be direcct fit for the 95 e36 M3), and a month later I took it again. Warmed it up the same way I did the first time. Not only did I failed the smog, referee said I got the wrong cats:hitler:. I was pissed. He saying that the cats are the wrong ones and that this year only uses one cat not two?? I didn't really pay attention after the test failed, but he said he called BMW and that they told him that the e36 M3 comes with 4 cats. His his book says that the cats I bought are for one cat cars or something like that. He said I also probably failed because of the cats being the wrong ones.

    My question is for people that are BAR'd and have aftermarket cats, what cats did you use?

    Parts replaced;
    O2 sensor
    Spark plugs
    Oil
    Cats
    Air filter
    19.5# Pink Injectors.

    Here are the Smog test results.

    1st test


    15MPH= RPM(1755), %CO2(14.5), %O2(0.3), HC PPM(85/256), CO%(0.50/0.49), NO PPM(695/1550) FAIL
    25MPH= RPM(2878), %CO2(14.7), %O2(0.0), HC PPM(50/66), CO%(0.47/0.18), NO PPM(717/107) FAIL

    2nd test (oil change, spark plugs, air filter changed, OEM e36 M3 cats)


    15MPH= RPM(1720), %CO2(14.7), %O2(1.3), HC PPM(85/205), CO%(0.50/0.52), NO PPM(695/661) FAIL
    25MPH= RPM(2856), %CO2(14.8), %O2(0.0), HC PPM(50/78), CO%(0.47/0.21), NO PPM(717/73) FAIL

    3rd test (walker 80801 cats)


    15MPH= RPM(1752), %CO2(14.9), %O2(0.3), HC PPM(85/158), CO%(0.50/0.18), NO PPM(695/474) FAIL
    25MPH= RPM(2854), %CO2(15.0), %O2(0.0), HC PPM(50/82), CO%(0.47/0.04), NO PPM(717/15) FAIL
    Last edited by blackhawkimpact; 11-12-2013, 04:39 PM.
  • franky2fingaz
    Advanced Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 117

    #2
    It seems to me that you might be burning rich.. . tuned?

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    • blackhawkimpact
      R3VLimited
      • Apr 2010
      • 2415

      #3
      413 red label DME with TRM chip

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      • franky2fingaz
        Advanced Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 117

        #4
        you can't pass with that, the shit load of HC (hydrocarbons) means your chip is (as designed) dumping more fuel in the mixture for the power gains...

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        • TheRealE30kidd
          E30 Addict
          • Jul 2010
          • 496

          #5
          Had the same problem. New cat fixed it.
          The Current Army
          -(UnderConstruction) 1991 330iS 24v S52 build thread
          -1992 325iC
          -1987 E30 Truck
          -1991 332iS (BecauseRacecar)
          -1988 Dinan M3
          -1988 325iX Tribute car
          -1989 320i Touring (S52/6spd)

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          • blackhawkimpact
            R3VLimited
            • Apr 2010
            • 2415

            #6
            So I put the stock chip back on and I should pass?

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            • franky2fingaz
              Advanced Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 117

              #7
              if you are running stock cams and injectors then I wouldn't see why not... I would also limit the driving as rich mixes ruin cats early...

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              • E30FreaK89
                E30 Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 437

                #8
                I'm having the same problem with trying to smog mine as well... But I'm not going for bar yet.

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                • E30FreaK89
                  E30 Addict
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 437

                  #9
                  update?

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                  • franky2fingaz
                    Advanced Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 117

                    #10
                    Originally posted by TheRealE30kidd
                    Had the same problem. New cat fixed it.
                    that could also be your problem.... you have to start with taking the fuel map back to stock then see if CATS are 'efficient' .. in Ontario the testing is as anal as Cali's..

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                    • blackhawkimpact
                      R3VLimited
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2415

                      #11
                      No update yet. I am on vacation. When I get back ill put the stcok chip back and get back to you guys. Thanks

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                      • suruba
                        Advanced Member
                        • Sep 2013
                        • 159

                        #12
                        what headers did you use? I'm looking to swap my s50 and need to know what headers will pass.

                        Dave

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                        • hwy84
                          Advanced Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 190

                          #13
                          Pink injectors on an otherwise stock S50 plus aftermarket tune means lots of fuel being dumped, and high HC.

                          Do you have access to green tops and a stock chip?
                          Current:
                          1991 325i Sedan - S50 Swap
                          1988 325i Cabrio

                          Past:
                          1991 M3
                          1991 318is
                          1985 325e

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                          • blackhawkimpact
                            R3VLimited
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2415

                            #14
                            I do. Ill be changing those before my app on the 22. Thanks for your help.
                            Last edited by blackhawkimpact; 01-14-2014, 05:21 PM.

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                            • Wanganstyle
                              R3VLimited
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2828

                              #15
                              Yup the wrong injectors and aftermarket chip = forever trying to pass smog.

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