M3 Flywheel Confirmation

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  • Metallated
    E30 Enthusiast
    • Dec 2016
    • 1070

    #1

    M3 Flywheel Confirmation

    So I got this flywheel off ebay and it isn't fitting with my flywheel I believe to be from a 328i, can anyone confirm that this flywheel if for an E36 M3 clutch? Thank you so much.

  • ZekeTheSneak
    E30 Mastermind
    • May 2010
    • 1562

    #2
    What isn't fitting? Looks to be a normal single mass flywheel.



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    • Metallated
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Dec 2016
      • 1070

      #3
      Originally posted by ZekeTheSneak
      What isn't fitting? Looks to be a normal single mass flywheel.
      Thanks for the reply, the pin holes on my pressure plate don't line up and it looks like the contact surface is slightly smaller.

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      • ZekeTheSneak
        E30 Mastermind
        • May 2010
        • 1562

        #4
        What pressure plate? All the 24vs run the same/interchangable flywheels. Well anything rocking a zf behind it. Any brand names on the flywheel? Weight?



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        • Metallated
          E30 Enthusiast
          • Dec 2016
          • 1070

          #5
          Originally posted by ZekeTheSneak
          What pressure plate? All the 24vs run the same/interchangable flywheels. Well anything rocking a zf behind it. Any brand names on the flywheel? Weight?
          I was under the same impression and thought I had a stock 328i pressure plate and clutch, both of which came with my zf.. ?

          I got the flywheel on ebay, it's 14.5 lbs, claimed it would be conpatible... oh well, now I guess I have an excuse to get a nice stage 2 clutch ;D

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          • ZekeTheSneak
            E30 Mastermind
            • May 2010
            • 1562

            #6
            Weird. Is the disk too big for the flywheel? If it is then I bet that flywheel is for a getrag.



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            • Metallated
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Dec 2016
              • 1070

              #7
              Originally posted by ZekeTheSneak
              Weird. Is the disk too big for the flywheel? If it is then I bet that flywheel is for a getrag.
              Nope the disc is too small for it, you might be onto something though, maybe the pp and clutch I have is from a getrag...

              Thanks for all your help figuring this out btw :D

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              • ZekeTheSneak
                E30 Mastermind
                • May 2010
                • 1562

                #8
                Yah getrags have smaller disks and pp. Early e36/e34 had getrags iirc. Yah anytime. This place is fucking dead. Nothing like it used to be.



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                • Northern
                  R3V Elite
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 5046

                  #9
                  I've always believed the S50, S52, and non-M flywheels were different, and the part numbers don't cross reference on RealOEM.

                  The clutch/PP xref between the S50 and S52, but the M52 is a different part for the clutch as well.
                  Last edited by Northern; 12-12-2017, 08:14 AM.
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                  • wworm
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Dec 2016
                    • 1719

                    #10
                    328s are the only e36s that share the zf320 trans with m3s
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                    • JimmyP
                      Grease Monkey
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 394

                      #11
                      When I did the lightweight flywheel in my M44 powered Ti according to my research it looked every E36 based flywheel fits every e36 based engine the only things that change were the clutch sizes.

                      4 cylinders were 215mm clutches
                      Non-M 6 cylinders were 228 mm clutch *EDIT except below 323 & 328

                      EDIT for future reference
                      1995 - 11/95 E36 323i - 6 cyl.
                      1994 - 99 E36 328i w/ M50, M52 2.8L - 6 cyl.
                      S50 - S52 "M" 6 cyl is 240mm

                      I put an alloy 228mm M5X flywheel and clutch into my Ti with no drama at all.

                      Are you sure you are not trying to put a 228mm clutch onto a 240mm flywheel?

                      It seemed like most of the aftermarket Ebay flywheels for any of the E36 6 cyls upgraded to the 240mm S52 clutch.

                      I had to hunt around for a used 228mm flywheel.\

                      Measure the OD of the machined friction surface, I would bet its going to be 240mm and you will need a 240mm S5X clutch.
                      Last edited by JimmyP; 12-12-2017, 09:32 AM.
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                      • Metallated
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 1070

                        #12
                        Originally posted by JimmyP
                        When I did the lightweight flywheel in my M44 powered Ti according to my research it looked every E36 based flywheel fits every e36 based engine the only things that change were the clutch sizes.

                        4 cylinders were 215mm clutches
                        Non-M 6 cylinders were 228 mm clutch
                        M 6 cyl is 240mm

                        I put an alloy 228mm M5X flywheel and clutch into my Ti with no drama at all.

                        Are you sure you are not trying to put a 228mm clutch onto a 240mm flywheel?

                        It seemed like most of the aftermarket Ebay flywheels for any of the E36 6 cyls upgraded to the 240mm S52 clutch.

                        I had to hunt around for a used 228mm flywheel.\

                        Measure the OD of the machined friction surface, I would bet its going to be 240mm and you will need a 240mm S5X clutch.
                        That may be the issue, I will investigate...

                        I'll measure the diameter - you're probably right.

                        Thank you for the exact dimensions, very useful!

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                        • M-technik-3
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                          • Oct 2003
                          • 18946

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZekeTheSneak
                          What pressure plate? All the 24vs run the same/interchangable flywheels. Well anything rocking a zf behind it. Any brand names on the flywheel? Weight?
                          Early 24V engines had smaller flywheels aka getrag transmissions in 325i and 325iS they tended to loose 2nd gear.

                          I am willing to bet this is for an early chassis e36. They all fit the bolt flange as mentioned it's just the friction size
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                          • ForcedFirebird
                            R3V OG
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 8300

                            #14
                            Getrag was used more than just early models, they were in the e36 325's and 323's (also z3 and some e46). The 328/m3 got the good stuff....

                            http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part...3001434410+%09

                            I had a manual swapped 328 come in the shop and didn't pay attention to the transmission, just the model. Well, a PO had used the Getrag and smaller clutch. Didn't realize until it was together and the clutch wouldn't release. Took it all back apart twice and it all appeared well. Come to find out the 328 disc in a 325 flywheel was rubbing the outside edge of the disc (since the disc was too large for the recessed friction surface). Had to do the whole job over with a 325 clutch kit.
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                            • Northern
                              R3V Elite
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 5046

                              #15
                              It's also nearly a safe assumption that that flywheel is S52 fitment, just based on how similar it looks to the gripforce/FX racing/ every ebay seller version

                              Which also states under "Compatibility":
                              IMPORTANT NOTE: MUST USE 96-99 BMW M3 CLUTCH KIT
                              So buy an S52 clutch kit, or run whichever flywheel matches the part number of the pressure plate you currently have.

                              Yes, the transmission is the same.
                              Yes, all 328 and M3's had 240mm clutches.
                              No, the flywheel/clutch is not the same.
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                              Originally posted by shameson
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