how fast is an e30 with m50???

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  • Lost
    Noobie
    • Jan 2008
    • 10

    #16
    Originally posted by rThor432
    Just put a DA super charger on your car for now. With that it will keep up with E36 M3's anyway. I believe GRM's car dynoed at 200 whp with the DA setup. Stock S5x's put down around 210 iirc.

    S5x or no DOHC. M5x just seems half-assed. For the cost of an M5x swap you could have a hell of an M20.
    If it's not hard, maybe you know the price for DA super charger kit for 318is?
    If I swap m50 in my car price is the following:
    -engine 700$
    -m20 clutch 160$
    -e36 driveshaft 40$
    -differential 3.73LSD 400$
    -other stuff 200$
    -exhaust 200$
    I will stick with getrag 240.
    Totally around 2k$ + I get something back for my m42. (around 500$)
    If I go m52 route, around extra 600$ for engine.
    Both ways I get 192hp and with m52 more tq.

    Any opinions?
    :D

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    • e30polak
      R3V OG
      • Nov 2006
      • 6136

      #17
      add a turbo or super charger to that list :D
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      • 02stu
        E30 Modder
        • Jan 2005
        • 872

        #18
        I originally had an m50 and didn't think it was all that fast. The m52 was a huge improvement.

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        • turboeta
          E30 Addict
          • Aug 2007
          • 571

          #19
          My M50 swap is gonna end up costing me about $1500, but that will be a freshened up motor with ALL new gaskets. My turbo setup when complete will run me about $4500. So $6000 dollars, and about 450rwhp. In my opinion if you plan to go FI in the future, save the money and get the M50. You can always throw a different crank in it and have a 2.9l. I still wish I bought a non-vanos motor though :(

          635csi Euro/Alpina B7S

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          • e30polak
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 6136

            #20
            Originally posted by turboeta
            My M50 swap is gonna end up costing me about $1500, but that will be a freshened up motor with ALL new gaskets. My turbo setup when complete will run me about $4500. So $6000 dollars, and about 450rwhp. In my opinion if you plan to go FI in the future, save the money and get the M50. You can always throw a different crank in it and have a 2.9l. I still wish I bought a non-vanos motor though :(
            exactly for pure power reasons, m50 NV+ FI= WIN!
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            • Lost
              Noobie
              • Jan 2008
              • 10

              #21
              Originally posted by e30polak
              exactly for pure power reasons, m50 NV+ FI= WIN!
              Yes I found that supercharger will run around 3.3$, and you will get 200hp form m42, and you won't actually have next step to do.
              M50 swap will run around 2k - m42engine and you will have next step:)

              Why m50 NV is better that vanos engine?
              And that are differences in fuel consumption?
              I am planning to build my car as daily driver for now, that's why fuel consumption matters:)

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              • turboeta
                E30 Addict
                • Aug 2007
                • 571

                #22
                Originally posted by e30polak
                exactly for pure power reasons, m50 NV+ FI= WIN!
                Yeah, beefier rods, dual valve springs, and different cams. NV FTW

                635csi Euro/Alpina B7S

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                • turboeta
                  E30 Addict
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 571

                  #23
                  Stay away from superchargers anyhow, if you do it...do it right.

                  635csi Euro/Alpina B7S

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                  • PiercedE30
                    R3V Elite
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 4220

                    #24
                    Originally posted by turboeta
                    Yeah, beefier rods, dual valve springs, and different cams. NV FTW
                    Beefier rods = HEAVIER rods. That's the reason I didn't use them in my build. I used the M52 rods, since they are forged, the same length, and lighter.
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                    • turboeta
                      E30 Addict
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 571

                      #25
                      Originally posted by PiercedE30
                      Beefier rods = HEAVIER rods. That's the reason I didn't use them in my build. I used the M52 rods, since they are forged, the same length, and lighter.
                      Also true, but the weight won't play a hufe factor when you're boosting 21psi :razz:

                      635csi Euro/Alpina B7S

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                      • rThor432
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 3907

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Lost
                        Any opinions?
                        :D
                        An M50 is just a waste. I dont care if it is $700, it doesnt have enough power to overcome the added weight. For the cost of the motor alone you could build up a decent M20 that will easily out run an M5x.

                        If you do it right you will have more than $2k in it. Not saying you cant do it for that, but if I had an engine out it would be fully refreshed and decently hot rodded before it went back in. Not to mention I would buy a new lighter flywheel, clutch, and pressure plate that would run an extra ~$800 anyway.

                        Just get an S50 or S52 [unless you build an aluminum block]. Even then, I would put money into it so that it would out-perform an ///M motor.

                        My opinion though.

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                        • matt
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2003
                          • 3731

                          #27


                          A lot of you guys need to learn some stuff for yourselves and ignore the internet BS that goes around.

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                          • matt
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Oct 2003
                            • 3731

                            #28
                            Originally posted by PiercedE30
                            Beefier rods = HEAVIER rods. That's the reason I didn't use them in my build. I used the M52 rods, since they are forged, the same length, and lighter.
                            Did you skip the non-vanos pistons also?

                            (My last post doesn't apply to you)

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                            • hoveringuy
                              R3VLimited
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 2680

                              #29
                              For the record, I like my M50.

                              I liked my M20, too (but not as much).

                              Not everyone does the swap to run a 14 second 1/4.

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                              • matt
                                No R3VLimiter
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 3731

                                #30
                                My NA e30/M50 was a lot of fun also, for the record.

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