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  • dude8383
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    • Jan 2005
    • 10387

    #1

    Problem after problem...brakes locking up

    So after driving the car around for like 5min, I pull into the driveway and stop.

    When I try backing into the garage my tires are just LOCKED UP...

    I've confirmed that is all four wheels locking up.

    I'm using the Treehouse Booster and I have no fucking clue as to why the brakes are locking up after driving.

    The odd thing is that the problem goes away when the car is off and just sits there for like 30min, I'm assuming the booster is releasing the pressure?

    How would I go about solving a problem like this?


    *EDIT* Solution at post # 17.
    Last edited by dude8383; 07-06-2012, 08:19 AM.
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  • hoveringuy
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    • Dec 2005
    • 2686

    #2
    You'll need to do some diagnosing for us.

    Vacuum from the engine tries to pull the diaphram forward, stepping on the brakes vents the cabin side of the booster to allow the diaphram to be pulled by the vacuum. Could be that vent is bad.

    When the brakes release after 30 minutes, does starting the engine cause them to lock again?

    Is the linkage properly adjusted? You may just need to adjust the linkage.

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    • tonytony
      Knee deep in poopie
      • Jan 2004
      • 3498

      #3
      the check valve for the booster could be bad, just an idea

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      • dude8383
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        • Jan 2005
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        #4
        Originally posted by hoveringuy
        You'll need to do some diagnosing for us.

        Vacuum from the engine tries to pull the diaphram forward, stepping on the brakes vents the cabin side of the booster to allow the diaphram to be pulled by the vacuum. Could be that vent is bad.

        When the brakes release after 30 minutes, does starting the engine cause them to lock again?

        Is the linkage properly adjusted? You may just need to adjust the linkage.
        not sure what a diaphram is...can you define it?

        starting the engine does not cause them to lock though.

        by linkage are you referring to the fork and the nut where the brake pedal hooks up?


        Originally posted by tonytony
        the check valve for the booster could be bad, just an idea
        is the check valve the thing coming from the brake booster to the intake manifold. i mean the plastic thing in between...
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        • matt
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          • Oct 2003
          • 3731

          #5
          Drive the car with the booster vac line disconnected. Brakes still locked?

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          • dude8383
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            • Jan 2005
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            #6
            Originally posted by matt
            Drive the car with the booster vac line disconnected. Brakes still locked?
            i was actually thinking about checking this tomorrow.

            so in the event that the brakes are no longer locked...what does it mean?

            what about vice versa...what if the brakes remain locked?
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            • Aptyp
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              • Feb 2008
              • 6584

              #7
              Originally posted by tonytony
              the check valve for the booster could be bad, just an idea
              Installed backwards??

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              • dude8383
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                • Jan 2005
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                #8
                Originally posted by Aptyp
                Installed backwards??
                i pulled that piece directly off of the original booster...never switched anything around.
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                • m3boost
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                  • Oct 2005
                  • 110

                  #9
                  Your booster has a leak... I had the same problem..
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                  • dude8383
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                    • Jan 2005
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by m3boost
                    Your booster has a leak... I had the same problem..
                    can you give me some more detail?

                    the booster i bought is re-manufactured and i doubt that treehouse would sell me a faulty booster.
                    Last edited by dude8383; 03-23-2010, 08:19 PM.
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                    • BeirBrennerE30
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 2740

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Aptyp
                      Installed backwards??
                      that was my first reaction.... seriously check this
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                      • dude8383
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                        • Jan 2005
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
                        that was my first reaction.... seriously check this
                        you guys are talking about # 17 right?

                        i dont really see how it could be backwards because there's only one way to put it in...unless there is a specific angle that it needs to be in.
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                        • JGood
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                          • Jan 2004
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                          #13
                          Not only that, but it wouldn't cause the brakes to lock.

                          hoveringuy has a good start. Did you do what matt recommended, drive with the booster disconnected? You'll need to block off the engine side, as that will create a huge leak. Just thread a bolt into the hose or something.

                          This will tell you if it's a booster issue, as it will deactivate the booster. Just be prepared, you won't have power brakes.


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                          • dude8383
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                            • Jan 2005
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                            #14
                            hey man, thanks for the advice!

                            im in the middle of fixing an oil leak so i had to take off a couple of things. im going to try with the booster disconnected and let you guys know what happens.

                            give me an hour or two!

                            oh thanks for that link...im no longer a brake booster noob!

                            Originally posted by JGood
                            Not only that, but it wouldn't cause the brakes to lock.

                            hoveringuy has a good start. Did you do what matt recommended, drive with the booster disconnected? You'll need to block off the engine side, as that will create a huge leak. Just thread a bolt into the hose or something.

                            This will tell you if it's a booster issue, as it will deactivate the booster. Just be prepared, you won't have power brakes.


                            http://auto.howstuffworks.com/power-brake2.htm
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                            • windsor318is
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                              • Mar 2004
                              • 688

                              #15
                              i have the same situation, check the fork mine needs to be adjusted but its welded with no adjustment, try disconnecting the fork, and see if they still lock up, remember that your brake lights will stay on.

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