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  • 2002maniac
    R3V Elite
    • Feb 2005
    • 4260

    #16
    Originally posted by ed94r
    Nice.

    Necessary to move the drivetrain, or looking for better front2rear?

    Ed
    check out the oil pan he used. moving the drivetrain is not needed with the E34 pan.

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    • FredK
      R3V OG
      • Oct 2003
      • 14739

      #17
      I'm pretty the ABL Originals uses DTA S100, which would give you the ability to retain dual Vanos.

      Great work! There has been a LOT of work to get to this point! If you guys check out the build thread on s14.net, you can just see the sheer amount of labor and fabrication in this project.

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      • Jason89i
        E30 Modder
        • Sep 2004
        • 875

        #18
        thanks for all the kind words. always nice to get some votes of confidence.

        Originally posted by BeirBrennerE30
        very nice. Did you keep vanos or drive-by-wire?

        How do you like the dual masters for the brakes? streetable?
        canned the drive by wire. i have not driven the car yet, not sure how the dual masters will feel when brakes are up to temp. i do have a bias, but might need to rethink master sizes. who knows. just need some seat time.

        Originally posted by rThor432
        Nice Jason! Looks like the new fuel pump worked wonders! Sound's amazing..
        i ended up using a hi flow in tank (again) and put a newer oe external pump. i have the bosch 044 just sitting on the bench.

        Originally posted by e30polak
        WOW!!!
        DO WANT!!! :hitler:

        Nice work there, that car must be soooooooooooo much fun to drive!!! I wish my car could make power till 8000, stupid US s52!

        BTW what rear end are you running? I know the e46 uses a 3.64, so a 3.73 would be about right, but a 3.46 would be even better IMO.
        i wish i knew what it was like to drive it...... i am still waiting for the state to send the plates. aaaarrrrgggghhhh.

        i currently have the e36m3 5speed (zf) coupled with the s3.23 from an mcoupe. after some thought, i think the 3.64 would be a better choice.

        Originally posted by kishg
        nice! more info on the engine management?
        DTA s-100 from ABL Originals. Ive been working with alex for a while on this project.

        Originally posted by ed94r
        Nice.
        Necessary to move the drivetrain, or looking for better front2rear?
        Ed
        not necessary, but it was the driving force. i love the power of the motor swapped car. love the handling of the s14'd m3 (51/49).

        Originally posted by FredK
        I'm pretty the ABL Originals uses DTA S100, which would give you the ability to retain dual Vanos.
        .
        bingo. Alex at ABL is working on a plug and play system for the s54 conversion. this has been a bit of a "test pig."

        Still have another 20 ft/lbs to get out of it, (and need to eliminate that nasty 3500-4000 torque dive) but hey.....not a bad start.

        cheers, jason

        cheers, jason

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        • M3 euro ltw
          Site Sponsor
          • Sep 2008
          • 259

          #19
          Fwiw....

          The factory cams are designed to be optimized for high rpm use. Therefore, it is not too surprising that we have excellent results in the higher rpm, and have exheeded handily the stock programming with the only real changes from US spec being the deletion of the cats in the headers, and the removal of the HFM tubing/stock intake.

          We fully expect to exheed factory spec for the rest of the powerband as well, but it will take some more massaging on the dyno to get there... we had only a very, very short time invested in the actual tuning of the cams, but the system worked very well.

          Look for stage two systems with CF intake to exheed these numbers as well. When one looks closely at the intake plenum of the stock S54, it is really amazing how much the first 2, perhaps even 3 cylinders are choked off in there, as well as #6.

          Coupled with a 6 speed and a 4.10, 4.27 or 4.45 this would be incredibly potent, coupled with a 5 speed ZF and a 3.91 would be a killer combination for race cars....These would limit top speeds of course, but tire size would be an issue as well....

          Stay tuned.... (no pun intended)
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          • e30polak
            R3V OG
            • Nov 2006
            • 6136

            #20
            Originally posted by Jason89i
            i wish i knew what it was like to drive it...... i am still waiting for the state to send the plates. aaaarrrrgggghhhh.

            i currently have the e36m3 5speed (zf) coupled with the s3.23 from an mcoupe. after some thought, i think the 3.64 would be a better choice.
            The 3.23 will be a great choice with the ZF. I used to have a 3.25 + ZF combo on my s52 swap car, and it was a great overall gear. I opted for the 3.46 to get some more "balls" out of the gearing.

            I will soon be switching to a 2.93 after driving another s52 swap with that gearing. I like having the much longer 1st and second gear, which allows for more time in the power-band of each gear.

            Since your motor makes so much more power in each gear, and revs past 8k, I think you will have a very fun powerband with the 3.23! If anything, you should source a 3.46, which would be a little shorter.

            Can't wait for some in-car footage of this beast in action! When I get the money, I will be swapping in an s54 into my e30. 8)
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            • StereoInstaller1
              GAS
              • Jul 2004
              • 22679

              #21
              Originally posted by M3 euro ltw
              Trying to make the world a better place, 6 TB at a time
              beautiful install. Nothing short of awesome!

              Closing SOON!
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              Thanks for 10 years of fun!

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              • Wh33lhop
                R3V OG
                • Feb 2009
                • 11705

                #22
                Originally posted by Jason89i
                not necessary, but it was the driving force. i love the power of the motor swapped car. love the handling of the s14'd m3 (51/49).
                Lies, the motor must have been set back so you could install the almighty MECHANICAL FAN!!!!1one

                Nobody likes half-assed electrical fans now. ;)
                paint sucks

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                • Jason89i
                  E30 Modder
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 875

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Wh33lhop
                  Lies, the motor must have been set back so you could install the almighty MECHANICAL FAN!!!!1one

                  Nobody likes half-assed electrical fans now. ;)
                  aaahhhh. you caught me. actually its for the leaf blower i am hooking up to the intake. since the electric one on ebay was worth 100 horse, i am guessing i can squeeze an extra 200 horse out of the craftsman gas model. ;)

                  cheers, jason
                  Last edited by Jason89i; 03-08-2010, 06:39 AM.

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                  • dude8383
                    Forum Sponsor
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 10387

                    #24
                    How is it to work on now that the motor is 4.5in's back? I ask b/c the plenum must have been a PAIN to install!
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                    • hoveringuy
                      R3VLimited
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 2675

                      #25
                      Originally posted by M3 euro ltw
                      We fully expect to exheed factory spec for the rest of the powerband as well, but it will take some more massaging on the dyno to get there... we had only a very, very short time invested in the actual tuning of the cams, but the system worked very well.
                      I've found that one of the hard parts in tuning the M54 is knowing what to do with the cams, now that I have control of them. I suspect the S54 will be the same way. Do you have data on what previous tuners have done for VANOS advance/retard schemes?


                      Originally posted by M3 euro ltw
                      Stay tuned.... (no pun intended)
                      I will!

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                      • M-technik-3
                        I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 18946

                        #26
                        Very cool so that is what happened to pinkie huh?
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                        • Jason89i
                          E30 Modder
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 875

                          #27
                          Originally posted by M-technik-3
                          Very cool so that is what happened to pinkie huh?
                          this is the pinkie car..... code named (from my brother in law) "rose."

                          its been 16months so far.....

                          as you can see, it has been a LOT of work. without my buddy john, it would still be rusting on my garage floor. But this is the pinkie car.







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                          • mutty
                            Wrencher
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 290

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Jason89i
                            hey guys. been awhile. i havent posted here much lately, but thought you might be interested.

                            s54 into an e30 m3 (that was a basket case when i started. )
                            engine moved back (4.5" ) after cutting firewall.
                            dta engine management from alex at ABL Originals.

                            should be a fun H.P.D.E. car.

                            anyways, pics say a thousand words.....






                            Am I reading those numbers correctly? 250whp/350wtq?

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                            • DEV0 E30
                              R3V OG
                              • Oct 2004
                              • 8796

                              #29
                              As always, love your work Jason. No exception here.
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                              • FredK
                                R3V OG
                                • Oct 2003
                                • 14739

                                #30
                                It looks like 325 whp / 250 tq.

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