Andrew's S54 Swap

[Wanganstyle]

Also, what are limitations on Flywheel and clutch setups using the 5 speed?

The guy who sold me my S54 threw in a LTW flywheel and clutch kit that came out of a 2000 M Roadster with an S52 and 5 speed. It's a E34 M5 pressure plate and sprung hub clutch disc and the FW is a 8.5 lbs single mass aluminum unit. I'm still trying to find out what brand flywheel it is as it isn't UUC (not blue anodized) and UUC is the only company I can find that makes a FW that's 8.5lbs and is sold with an E34 clutch kit.

Can I use this setup with the S54 and ZF 5 speed?

One can fit a M20 oem (or aftermarket) clutch and flywheel to a s54 and zf 5 speed.

All the bmw small 6 clutches can be interchanged (m20, m50, m54, s50, s54)



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[gills]

Also, what are limitations on Flywheel and clutch setups using the 5 speed?

The guy who sold me my S54 threw in a LTW flywheel and clutch kit that came out of a 2000 M Roadster with an S52 and 5 speed. It's a E34 M5 pressure plate and sprung hub clutch disc and the FW is a 8.5 lbs single mass aluminum unit. I'm still trying to find out what brand flywheel it is as it isn't UUC (not blue anodized) and UUC is the only company I can find that makes a FW that's 8.5lbs and is sold with an E34 clutch kit.

Can I use this setup with the S54 and ZF 5 speed?

[gills]

Thank you, sir!


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[Andrew325is]

Which transmission crossmember did you use for the ZF 5 speed?

The original E30 crossmember.

and, what intake tube is that you're running? (the silver piece)

K&N Typhoon 69-2001TS

[gills]

and, what intake tube is that you're running? (the silver piece)

[gills]

Which transmission crossmember did you use for the ZF 5 speed?

[Andrew325is]

Did you ever get the cruise control working? I've been looking to add it to my swap now. I think the e85 unit will work but am not positive.

No, I gave up on it. It's too fun to rev the S54 anyways. :D

[ahriley91]

Did you ever get the cruise control working? I've been looking to add it to my swap now. I think the e85 unit will work but am not positive.

[Andrew325is]

My original build thread needed some maintenance so I fixed it up. The pictures should all load the correct size now and I added some more swap info. :)

[Andrew325is]

Here's a place selling them for $11.43: https://www.flowline.net/default.asp...7007-10-L15-22.

[Andrew325is]

The part number for the M22 female to -10 AN male adapters is 7007-10-M22 which I originally found in a thread on S14.net. I looked through Brennan's catalog and it looks like this is it: 7007-10-L15-22.
(http://catalog.brennaninc.com/catalo...7007-10-L15-22).
I found one here for $13:
http://www.royalsupply.com/store/pc/...m#.Uaf4XZywXgU.

[anaphe]

Andrew, I called Orme Brothers and they said they have never sold a m22 female to -10 AN Male, would you have a part number?

They do have an m22 (f) to -12AN (m)?

If you had a PN that would be great.

thanks

Anthony
anaphe@gmail.com

[Wanganstyle]

it also costs $350. that's $350 you could spend on headers or something worthwile. that would buy you almost 4 hours of dyno time, for example.

it's trivial to retune the E-throttle, and it's also basically free. and, I still doubt it responds the same way, as Andrew said, the S54 ITBs were never meant to be used with a throttle cable linkage.

If you look at an S54 throttle map, there's a lot of resolution in the low-RPM, low-load range. The S54 throttles are large and it has a short ram intake. A small change in throttle angle at low load will result in a large increase in air. It also affects transient response (AE).

Basically, IMO, there's no reason to use a throttle cable at all, unless you're not using MSS54 then you have no choice.

Heck, even Bimmerworld says it's not suggested if you have the stock DME:

Agreed. As much as I like analog throttle the oem ethrottle is damm good
And I daily drove a cable coversion throttle s54 in hilly san Francisco happily

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[nando]

Still seems to me like more reason for manual throttle. The one from bimmerworld claims to have solved the sticky modulation issues of the other manual setups, appears to be a different design than VAC and Sunbelt Link

it also costs $350. that's $350 you could spend on headers or something worthwile. that would buy you almost 4 hours of dyno time, for example.

it's trivial to retune the E-throttle, and it's also basically free. and, I still doubt it responds the same way, as Andrew said, the S54 ITBs were never meant to be used with a throttle cable linkage.

If you look at an S54 throttle map, there's a lot of resolution in the low-RPM, low-load range. The S54 throttles are large and it has a short ram intake. A small change in throttle angle at low load will result in a large increase in air. It also affects transient response (AE).

Basically, IMO, there's no reason to use a throttle cable at all, unless you're not using MSS54 then you have no choice.

Heck, even Bimmerworld says it's not suggested if you have the stock DME:

This part is not required or suggested with the BimmerWorld S54 Conversion electronics or any stock ECU application.

[e30shmobberr]

this car. damn!