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  • Nisse Järnet
    E30 Fanatic
    • Aug 2013
    • 1221

    #196
    It's like the ZF 320, always 3rd gear :P Reduce boost a little on 3rd and you're good :)
    E30 325ix M50 turbo 7 spd DCT 4wd 840awhp @ 31 psi.
    E30 M50 6 spd 764whp @ 24psi.
    E30 M20 6 spd 675whp.

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    • jute91
      E30 Addict
      • Nov 2011
      • 581

      #197


      and here we go again.. matti has huge problems with the traction tho..



      10.7s 1/4mile. hear the slipping at first gear
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      • mw044
        Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 59

        #198
        Originally posted by jute91
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZA50jk7t4g

        and here we go again.. matti has huge problems with the traction tho..



        10.7s 1/4mile. hear the slipping at first gear
        Street tires can't do more than ~1,1g

        Jute: Only one transmission broken so far (3rd gear). The one in that video above.

        By the way - I'm now using your driveshaft upgrade, great product. I was going to use two guibos, but there's no room for second one unless you modify the bodywork. I'm now using organic clutch. Along with that and few minor tweaks to front diff - I hope that front diff breaking is a thing in the past. At least at this power level (~800hp).

        Too bad the engine seems to produce a lot more. :D

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        • Nisse Järnet
          E30 Fanatic
          • Aug 2013
          • 1221

          #199
          Haha great to hear from you, any new videos?
          E30 325ix M50 turbo 7 spd DCT 4wd 840awhp @ 31 psi.
          E30 M50 6 spd 764whp @ 24psi.
          E30 M20 6 spd 675whp.

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          • jute91
            E30 Addict
            • Nov 2011
            • 581

            #200
            Originally posted by mw044
            Street tires can't do more than ~1,1g

            Jute: Only one transmission broken so far (3rd gear). The one in that video above.

            By the way - I'm now using your driveshaft upgrade, great product. I was going to use two guibos, but there's no room for second one unless you modify the bodywork. I'm now using organic clutch. Along with that and few minor tweaks to front diff - I hope that front diff breaking is a thing in the past. At least at this power level (~800hp).

            Too bad the engine seems to produce a lot more. :D
            Needs more weight transmitting to rear tyres


            make the rear suspension softer. it might give you more traction to rear.
            that's how they make it at rallycross series.

            GTR makes pretty good time using torque pretty well. and slicks. and sequential gearbox :D


            305hp is enough for 11's though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcejMk3n1F4
            Last edited by jute91; 02-19-2015, 12:28 AM.
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            • mw044
              Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 59

              #201
              Originally posted by Nisse Järnet
              Haha great to hear from you, any new videos?
              No new videos. After dyno I took the engine apart for checking and few mods. More to come next summer. :D

              Needs more weight transmitting to rear tyres


              make the rear suspension softer. it might give you more traction to rear.
              that's how they make it at rallycross series.
              Naaa.. car is a street car driven on dragraces, not a drag car driven on street. :D I had softer suspension earlier and yes, there sure was weight transfer... It was pretty undriveable @ WOT. A lot easier to drive with stiff suspension.

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              • TehRaydarlover
                E30 Addict
                • Mar 2013
                • 543

                #202
                Originally posted by mw044
                Along with that and few minor tweaks to front diff - I hope that front diff breaking is a thing in the past.
                What was your final solution to the front diff?
                Last edited by TehRaydarlover; 02-19-2015, 05:26 PM.
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                • jute91
                  E30 Addict
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 581

                  #203
                  I have now spring rate something like 60kg at the front and 110kg at the rear.
                  Rear is pretty soft and I like it. Rear tyres rub right at the end of inbound.





                  How I'x should be cornering


                  If you Matti ever think about joining facebook, there is always room in my ix group. reached 200 members long time ago. If you would like to craft something you would sell ;)
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                  • mw044
                    Member
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 59

                    #204
                    Originally posted by jute91
                    I have now spring rate something like 60kg at the front and 110kg at the rear.
                    Rear is pretty soft and I like it. Rear tyres rub right at the end of inbound.
                    I've got 95kg/180kg.

                    How I'x should be cornering
                    I have to disagree with this. This exact picture was used in some other thread/forum about ix cornering. If my car would lift inside front wheel when cornering (exiting corner) it would lead to a massive uncontrollable oversteer, because no LSD in front diff - front power would "escape" from lifted tire and car would basicly behave like RWD (with too much torque applied). When trying to counter steer, car would shoot towards the outer corner when front tires get grip again.

                    This is the way 4wd should look like when cornering:


                    Well actually that's quite extreme example (especially for ix's rear biased 4wd), but hopefully you see the point.

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #205
                      that is my car, on H&R sports with hoosier slicks. Yeah, I dunno - I'm pretty certain the car handled better/got faster after I upgraded the suspension from that point.

                      I did have a couple oversteer incidents in that time, but mainly during transitions like slalom sections the car rolled so much it just wasn't as responsive.

                      here's a couple months later with much stiffer suspension. this was 2 or 3 suspension changes ago, but the main difference from what I have now is ride quality and suspension travel:


                      the car did get faster and I won my class that year. I added an accelerometer to my Megasquirt at some point and I can sustain 1g+ on R-DOTs no problem.

                      Man, I miss those 14" wheels. They were so frickn' light and the tires were like gumballs. I like the 15" I have now but I could pretty much one hand those things when switching tires. I pulled a stock 16" wheel off my wife's E91 the other day, good god that thing was heavy. the 14" wheels were only around 20lbs a corner including the tires!
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                      • jute91
                        E30 Addict
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 581

                        #206
                        Well I just like nando's setup. Love to drive oversteer car.

                        Would really like to try this setup though.
                        http://www.racecar-engineering.com/a...versions-1984/

                        Middle LSD locking controlled by boost pressure
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                        • nando
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 34827

                          #207
                          You still can with more power. I prefer the snappyness of the handling, although to be honest i don't know that grip ultimately changed that much.

                          Just looking at these makes me want to work on my E30, lol
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                          • litu
                            E30 Modder
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 815

                            #208
                            How I'x should be cornering

                            Not 100% sure, but also it sound/looks like ix turn slower in this setup, if compare that stiffer suspension setup, in order to prevent those inner front tyres to rise up. So you can use ix potential, if want that front tyre rise, then should use 2wd, it is lighter.....This is in track use, why not in street use
                            https://www.facebook.com/Cry_77_IX-110483784967661
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                            • Nisse Järnet
                              E30 Fanatic
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1221

                              #209
                              Originally posted by mw044
                              No new videos. After dyno I took the engine apart for checking and few mods. More to come next summer. :D



                              Naaa.. car is a street car driven on dragraces, not a drag car driven on street. :D I had softer suspension earlier and yes, there sure was weight transfer... It was pretty undriveable @ WOT. A lot easier to drive with stiff suspension.
                              Ok lookin forward to that! :)
                              Originally posted by nando
                              that is my car, on H&R sports with hoosier slicks. Yeah, I dunno - I'm pretty certain the car handled better/got faster after I upgraded the suspension from that point.

                              I did have a couple oversteer incidents in that time, but mainly during transitions like slalom sections the car rolled so much it just wasn't as responsive.

                              here's a couple months later with much stiffer suspension. this was 2 or 3 suspension changes ago, but the main difference from what I have now is ride quality and suspension travel:


                              the car did get faster and I won my class that year. I added an accelerometer to my Megasquirt at some point and I can sustain 1g+ on R-DOTs no problem.

                              Man, I miss those 14" wheels. They were so frickn' light and the tires were like gumballs. I like the 15" I have now but I could pretty much one hand those things when switching tires. I pulled a stock 16" wheel off my wife's E91 the other day, good god that thing was heavy. the 14" wheels were only around 20lbs a corner including the tires!
                              Lookin good!!
                              E30 325ix M50 turbo 7 spd DCT 4wd 840awhp @ 31 psi.
                              E30 M50 6 spd 764whp @ 24psi.
                              E30 M20 6 spd 675whp.

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                              • nando
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2003
                                • 34827

                                #210
                                I still think the ix can be as competitive as any other E30. Almost all of the RWD E30 owners I knew were all talk anyway, there would be maybe 1 that would actually show up to an event.

                                and if it's raining, well, the gloves are off, the RWD E30 doesn't hold up!
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