Manual Tranmission Mounting Point Rust

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  • Sea Aych
    Mod Crazy
    • Apr 2013
    • 763

    #1

    Manual Tranmission Mounting Point Rust

    Hi everyone, i've found that i've got some sizeable rust rot on the passenger side mounting point for the transmission. It's number 2 in this photo. It's where the bolt goes through the tranny mounts into the "frame" of the car - Any suggestions on getting this repaired? Simple cut and weld?
    You can see further back the mounting points for the auto transmission (the slit with the notch about 2/3rds the way down). For the manual point under number 2, it's basically rusted out so that the bolt can move around, causing a fair bit of vibration.
    Any help appreciated!!
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    1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
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  • Sea Aych
    Mod Crazy
    • Apr 2013
    • 763

    #2
    Bump?
    Anyone know if that bit of the unibody is just one sheet of metal and its gauge?
    1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
    1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
    1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
    My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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    • berlow94
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jan 2013
      • 1063

      #3
      The PO of my car cut and welded it with no problems at all.


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      • Sea Aych
        Mod Crazy
        • Apr 2013
        • 763

        #4
        Originally posted by berlow94
        The PO of my car cut and welded it with no problems at all.


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        Cool cool, so it's just one layer of steel not some weird laminated business?
        Thanks, that's all i needed to know!
        1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
        1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
        1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
        My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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        • Sea Aych
          Mod Crazy
          • Apr 2013
          • 763

          #5
          Bumping this again,
          I got a quote from a shop that suggested getting rid of all the existing rust and sealing it off, then putting a bolt through the floor.
          How does this compare in ease of doing compared to cutting and welding in a new plate like @berlow94 said 2 posts above?
          1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
          1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
          1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
          My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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          • SmokeE30
            E30 Mastermind
            • Jun 2009
            • 1730

            #6
            I feel it would be easier to make a bracket to extend over to the fresh section of track like where the auto bolts in or possibly further down the manual one if it's. Not too rusty.
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            • JGood
              R3V OG
              • Jan 2004
              • 7959

              #7
              ^What he said. With my 6 speed swap, I had to make a trans brace that extends forward to reach the slots for the bolts. There is a lot of room there. I'd just weld a bracket on the trans mount that extends forward or backward (or both) to clean metal. You'll also want to cut out all of the rust and seal it all up so it doesn't spread.

              Obviously the proper way to do it would be to replace the rusty metal, but it's a bit more involved to do it properly so it's structurally sound to hold the trans.
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              e30 restoration and V8 swap
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              • Sea Aych
                Mod Crazy
                • Apr 2013
                • 763

                #8
                Originally posted by SmokeE30
                I feel it would be easier to make a bracket to extend over to the fresh section of track like where the auto bolts in or possibly further down the manual one if it's. Not too rusty.
                Originally posted by JGood
                ^What he said. With my 6 speed swap, I had to make a trans brace that extends forward to reach the slots for the bolts. There is a lot of room there. I'd just weld a bracket on the trans mount that extends forward or backward (or both) to clean metal. You'll also want to cut out all of the rust and seal it all up so it doesn't spread.

                Obviously the proper way to do it would be to replace the rusty metal, but it's a bit more involved to do it properly so it's structurally sound to hold the trans.
                You mean bolting the rusty side to the auto mounting point my welding something at a right angle to my existing brace? At that point wouldn't it make more of an open "S" shape, making it want to bend down on the right side where it would have bolted into the manual point originally?
                1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
                1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
                1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
                My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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                • JGood
                  R3V OG
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7959

                  #9
                  No, the slot for the mounting bolt is about 6" long. Is the whole thing rusted out? If not, and there is still a usable section, you can extend the brace to that area.
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                  e30 restoration and V8 swap
                  24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                  • Sea Aych
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 763

                    #10
                    Originally posted by JGood
                    No, the slot for the mounting bolt is about 6" long. Is the whole thing rusted out? If not, and there is still a usable section, you can extend the brace to that area.
                    Close to the whole thing is pretty messed up. It's weird cuz it's only on that side... Do i have any other options?
                    I was thinking of maybe extending the brace back to the auto slot and keeping what's left of the bolt mounting on the manual slot as a backup - it holds-ish, but i can't tighten down the bolt for fear of ripping it through
                    1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
                    1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
                    1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
                    My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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                    • Sea Aych
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 763

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Sea Aych
                      Close to the whole thing is pretty messed up. It's weird cuz it's only on that side... Do i have any other options?
                      I was thinking of maybe extending the brace back to the auto slot and keeping what's left of the bolt mounting on the manual slot as a backup - it holds-ish, but i can't tighten down the bolt for fear of ripping it through
                      Bump?
                      The whole 6" slot is done. Should i cut and weld or weld an extension to the trans brace so i can put a bolt into the clean slot for the auto transmission?
                      1988 Atlantisblau Euro/Japanese 325i Cabriolet
                      1989 Schwartz 325i - now M50 powered! - now very dead
                      1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited
                      My 17,000km Big NA National Parks trip!

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                      • JonasBarstad
                        Noobie
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 2

                        #12
                        What did you end up doing? I have a similar problem on my e30, only on the drivers side.

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                        • 15Michaeljoseph
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Aug 2013
                          • 1693

                          #13
                          interested to know as well


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                          • Mr. Tasty
                            No R3VLimiter
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 3421

                            #14
                            Most likely cutting and welding new material there.
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                            • 15Michaeljoseph
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1693

                              #15
                              Originally posted by codyep3
                              Most likely cutting and welding new material there.
                              i mean one would guess that, but is a welded patch enough to support a tranny? I don't know.


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