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  • GunMetalGrey
    E30 Fanatic
    • Dec 2010
    • 1499

    #151
    I feel as though I do, but maybe not.
    In the plug for the amp, is that both the input and output wires?

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    • ButtJuice
      R3VLimited
      • Dec 2009
      • 2609

      #152
      I just installed a kenwood headunit, everything lights up and works as should. But I'm not getting any sound out of the speakers. Any ideas?

      (I have premium speakers/tweeters)
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      • WhyNot
        Grease Monkey
        • May 2012
        • 363

        #153
        Originally posted by GunMetalGrey
        I feel as though I do, but maybe not.
        In the plug for the amp, is that both the input and output wires?
        i think the best thing would be to print out the chart that shows the colors and where each goes.
        then start at the amp.
        i thin the amp has the feeds in from the stereo and the outputs to the speakers.
        starting at the back helps illuminate your mind.
        you will see the twisted pairs [u kno what that means? its two wires twisted together like two hot lesbians cuttling after they bump donuts].
        dont worry if the ground wire doesnt match exactly to the colors, it didnt in my car but the primary colors do.
        this will help becuase at the head unit you need to open up the loom a little bit to see the real twisted pair.
        i may be best to not cut and ask questions later.
        it may help to label each wire with some masking tape and write what it is.
        once you do that it all starts to come clearer.
        i think you are on speed bc my neighbor is a meth head and loves to rip crap apart. but put down the pipe till you are done.
        goodluck
        you can do it, its not bad. luke has made it easy for us to follow,thanks luke.
        i want more power and i read the formula is p=iv so im gonna feed 24 volts to my head unit and get twice the power so no amp is required. if it sounds good i may go to 36volts but if i calculated it right 48 istoo much for the stock speakers
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        • agent
          Vice Grand Pubaa
          • Mar 2010
          • 7960

          #154
          wat
          Originally posted by kronus
          would be in depending on tip slant and tube size

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          • GunMetalGrey
            E30 Fanatic
            • Dec 2010
            • 1499

            #155
            Being slightly color blind doesn't really help in this situation lol.
            An amp needs an input for sound, And an output for speakers.
            Are the input wires and output wires both on the one plug going into the amp?
            If I get that answered I should be good.

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            • accident
              R3V OG
              • Sep 2008
              • 7303

              #156
              Originally posted by WhyNot
              i want more power and i read the formula is p=iv so im gonna feed 24 volts to my head unit and get twice the power so no amp is required. if it sounds good i may go to 36volts but if i calculated it right 48 istoo much for the stock speakers

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              • dogsbark26
                E30 Addict
                • Nov 2008
                • 533

                #157
                Originally posted by GunMetalGrey
                An amp needs an input for sound, And an output for speakers.
                Are the input wires and output wires both on the one plug going into the amp?
                The input and output wires are not usually on a single plug. Most amplifiers have the inputs from the head unit on one end and the outputs to the speakers on the other end.

                If you have a plug with three wires, it is likely to be for power and remote turn on.

                Frequently, the inputs are RCA type female plugs.

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                • GunMetalGrey
                  E30 Fanatic
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 1499

                  #158
                  Alrighty, so I got the amp bypassed. I honestly don't know what I was doing before.
                  Only thing that came up is the fact that the rear speakers do not do anything, the rear tweeters do but the main rear speakers do not do anything.
                  I did not have the orange/black ground I had two twisted pairs of yellow and red and blue and red that appear to be the grounds, I am not sure if that would be related to the fact that the rear speakers do not work or not.

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                  • GunMetalGrey
                    E30 Fanatic
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 1499

                    #159
                    I also have the crackling that other people have described, which was said to be ground related I believe. I have to check that again

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                    • bernzpeed
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3917

                      #160
                      have you tried checking your speakers if it was blown? i just installed an Alpine amp on mine coz i was complaining bout the lack of bass on my premium speakers that i retrofitted and after trying out 3 speakers, finally we boiled it down to the speakers by the 3rd set of speakers. at first i thought it was my wiring because i didn't use the rca cable and instead used the speaker level input. it sounds great now coz i replaced my speakers with Polk Audio component speakers. Just need to install the sub for the final touches.
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                      • GunMetalGrey
                        E30 Fanatic
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 1499

                        #161
                        They had been good before so I would assume they are still fine, but I shall check them regardless.

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                        • Ngk325
                          Noobie
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 15

                          #162
                          Looking to see if anyone has similar issues and/or suggestions - sound is horrible out of speakers (cracking/pop sounding) and engine noise speaker output ( I can hear the engine in my speakers - very loud).
                          90 325i premium sound with after market clarion HU. I plan to replace the HU but before I start I need to find out what might be causing speaker engine noise and hopefully resolving this issue might fix the horrible crack/poping sound. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance.

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                          • ProjectCab
                            Advanced Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 126

                            #163
                            Installing my new deck. '88 with the fader and amp but with aftermarket deck already installed. Any idea why the PO would have spliced both white wires to the blue/white from the aftermarket harness? I'm guessing my amp is still running the speakers?
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                            • astiv43
                              Noobie
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 21

                              #164
                              Brilliant - thanks to everyone on the thread

                              Like the man says, ignore the weirdness at the amp/HU. Just follow the wire back to the twisted pairs and you are good to go.

                              Given the unholy mess someone made splicing a radar detector into harness, I doubt I would have even attempted it without this. But all of the crap was downstream from the twisted pairs, so I knew I could snip it, did, and the new HU works brilliantly with the old harness and speakers - Kenwood KDC-BT852HD. Ugly, but what the hell, they all are.
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                              • StereoInstaller1
                                GAS
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 22679

                                #165
                                Originally posted by astiv43
                                Like the man says, ignore the weirdness at the amp/HU. Just follow the wire back to the twisted pairs and you are good to go.

                                Given the unholy mess someone made splicing a radar detector into harness, I doubt I would have even attempted it without this. But all of the crap was downstream from the twisted pairs, so I knew I could snip it, did, and the new HU works brilliantly with the old harness and speakers - Kenwood KDC-BT852HD. Ugly, but what the hell, they all are.
                                Good to hear people are still getting solid use of this info. Makes me so proud of you guys! <sniff>

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