Shorted My ratchet on my starter

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  • SocalianSD
    Advanced Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 152

    #1

    Shorted My ratchet on my starter

    I shorted my ratchet on my starter on accident. Now my windows won't work, also my blower motor, heated seats and A/c button. I swapped out the k5 and k7 load relays with known working relays and checked all of my fuses none of them are blown. My windows still won't work! Is there a common ground that could be fried for all of the stuff i mentioned above?? Help!!!

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  • 5Toes
    Banned
    • May 2010
    • 9836

    #2
    Curious about this too, I may have done the same sort of thing

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    • AndrewBird
      The Mad Scientist
      • Oct 2003
      • 11892

      #3
      Possible fried the fusable link in the trunk that is connected to the battery.

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      • SocalianSD
        Advanced Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 152

        #4
        Thanks for the advice Nitro, But my battery is in the engine bay and I already have cleaned up my terminals. My ratchet shorted on the green black wire and the power cable. I got under the dash yesterday and checked the common ground next to the steering column and I couldn't find anything unusual. It's acting like all of the stuff I mentioned above are all on the same circuit.

        6287156541_32b0c468f4_z-1 by SoCalian_SD, on Flickr

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        • bimmerteck
          Mod Crazy
          • Mar 2009
          • 762

          #5
          Originally posted by NitroRustlerDriver
          Possible fried the fusable link that is connected to the battery.

          ^Fixed.


          I would start by checking the fusable link as well.

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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #6
            this is why you unhook the battery before working on or near electrical connections.
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            • MoreMayhem
              Mod Crazy
              • Feb 2012
              • 649

              #7
              Should design a switch that disconnects the Negative from the battery whenever the hood is opened. Maybe some already has? I'm guilty of leaving the battery connected when it should not be, but with no disasters fortunately. It is a habit that needs to be broken.

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                that sounds like a bad idea - how would you run the engine with the hood open? every time you change your oil, or check the level, your radio, clock, and DME reset?
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                • ForcedFirebird
                  R3V OG
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 8300

                  #9
                  Sounds like the ground on your starter lost connection. There are 2 small wires on the starter and if the ground is disconnected things act funny.
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                  • MoreMayhem
                    Mod Crazy
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 649

                    #10
                    I am ripe with bad ideas! But like you said, battery should always be disconnected when working on or near electrical components.

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                    • Gregs///M
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                      • Mar 2012
                      • 2459

                      #11
                      Also check your engine to chassis ground from the oil pan to frame rail. Should be clean, tight, and not oily or corroded.
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                      • cabriodster87
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 1042

                        #12
                        Originally posted by nando
                        this is why you unhook the battery before working on or near electrical connections.
                        First thought.
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                        • GOT8SPD
                          Wrencher
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 270

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MoreMayhem
                          I am ripe with bad ideas!
                          ^^^LOL At least you know! I don't know it's a bad idea till it's actually gone terribly wrong and there's no return...

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                          • DaveSmed
                            E30 Fanatic
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1406

                            #14
                            Ya nuked that little terminal internally inside the starter.

                            When it shorted, that little stud was trying to power the starter motor.

                            Move the black/green wire over to the other little stud, and all should be well.
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                            • SocalianSD
                              Advanced Member
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 152

                              #15
                              Update!

                              Ok I forgot to mention(on purpose) that I was changing out my starter to a new one and I didn't disconnect the battery. Yes i know I'm an idiot and know better.

                              Anyways, the first starter had the problem and I thought it was something to do with the wiring since all my fuses and relays were good sooo I tore into my dash. Everything is good, Ok went and warrantied out that starter and got another one.... same Issue. So I grounded the wire to the body of my car and everything works now.

                              My question to all of you guys who remans starters besides Cardone? Also where could I get a starter that wont give me this problem? The first starter was from a place called Metro and the second one was from Autozone.

                              6287156541_32b0c468f4_z-1 by SoCalian_SD, on Flickr

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