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  • JCarp90
    E30 Mastermind
    • Feb 2011
    • 1759

    #1

    GE Keyless Question

    Hello all,

    I purchased the GE Keyless system and I got it all installed in my car last night. Everything is wired properly - I'm sure of it. I followed this:



    The only part I'm using quick connects on is the ground - everything else I spliced with butt connectors into. What's happening is the lights flash and the box clicks when I unlock/lock the car, but the doors don't actually lock/unlock. My central locking functions and will lock and unlock all doors, but I cannot turn my key much in my driver's door. The trunk and passenger work flawlessly, though. Like I said, all doors will lock/unlock if I do it from the trunk and passenger door.

    Could my actual lock cylinder be the issue?
  • bmwstephen
    R3VLimited
    • May 2009
    • 2463

    #2
    Likely the key cylinder. Although u can double check by pulling the power and ground feed off the alarm thus disabling it to see if you notice a difference

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    • JCarp90
      E30 Mastermind
      • Feb 2011
      • 1759

      #3
      Originally posted by bmwstephen
      Likely the key cylinder. Although u can double check by pulling the power and ground feed off the alarm thus disabling it to see if you notice a difference

      Sent from the heavens
      It's only keyless. There is no alarm in the car.

      Also I mentioned that all of my doors unlock and lock as they should, just not from the drivers door. I guess I'll pulll my door panel and take a look at the cylinder tonight.

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      • JCarp90
        E30 Mastermind
        • Feb 2011
        • 1759

        #4
        Went to a soccer game last night so didn't have time to work on it. Anyone have any other ideas?

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        • ACS Cabrio
          Wrencher
          • Aug 2012
          • 243

          #5
          it could be the lock actuator in the drivers door. i installed an avital system and it would try to lock then return to the unlocked position. and when i locked it with the door pin and pressed unlock it tried to unlock then returned to the lock position. i removed the plug from the drivers actuator and it worked as intended. replaced the drivers lock actuator with another and all functions now work properly

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          • JCarp90
            E30 Mastermind
            • Feb 2011
            • 1759

            #6
            Originally posted by ACS Cabrio
            it could be the lock actuator in the drivers door. i installed an avital system and it would try to lock then return to the unlocked position. and when i locked it with the door pin and pressed unlock it tried to unlock then returned to the lock position. i removed the plug from the drivers actuator and it worked as intended. replaced the drivers lock actuator with another and all functions now work properly
            Well, the thing is with mine, the keyless box clicks but the doors do nothing.

            I KNOW it's wired correctly and the box is actually sending a signal - it's just not working.

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            • einstein57
              R3V OG
              • Jun 2007
              • 10780

              #7
              Have you tested for continuity from the alarm harness connector to the actuator?
              The colors that you put on your able don't match mine. Trunk install?

              Last edited by einstein57; 11-01-2012, 09:45 AM.
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              • JCarp90
                E30 Mastermind
                • Feb 2011
                • 1759

                #8
                Originally posted by einstein57
                Have you tested for continuity from the alarm harness connector to the actuator?
                The colors that you put on your able don't match mine. Trunk install?

                Yes- Trunk install. Do you mean at the actuator by the drivers door speaker?

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                • einstein57
                  R3V OG
                  • Jun 2007
                  • 10780

                  #9
                  Did you ground the yellow and yellow/black wires?
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                  • JCarp90
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 1759

                    #10
                    Bumping this as I have some extra time to explore the issue further.

                    Removing the lock cylinder tonight to clean/inspect. Anybody have any other tips?

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                    • jeffnhiscars
                      R3V OG
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 6010

                      #11
                      I've done 2 lock rebuilds in the last month and the problem was never cleaning. The first one had the usual ball groove carved in to the barrel and the one I did this last weekend actually had a broken piece. They both needed to be replaced

                      I suggest you have a kit on hand. They are not expensive or all that hard to repair.
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                      • Kershaw
                        R3V OG
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 11822

                        #12
                        do you have it wired in the trunk?

                        i swear i had it wired up correctly but it refused to work. same thing. box would click, nothing would lock or unlock. what fixed it was cutting the wires instead of just splicing into them. so it went wire -> |box| -> wire.
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                        • JCarp90
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 1759

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jeffnhiscars
                          I've done 2 lock rebuilds in the last month and the problem was never cleaning. The first one had the usual ball groove carved in to the barrel and the one I did this last weekend actually had a broken piece. They both needed to be replaced

                          I suggest you have a kit on hand. They are not expensive or all that hard to repair.
                          Pulled my lock tonight and found this:



                          Ordering 2 lock kits tomorrow and a driver's side actuator as well.

                          Originally posted by Kershaw
                          do you have it wired in the trunk?

                          i swear i had it wired up correctly but it refused to work. same thing. box would click, nothing would lock or unlock. what fixed it was cutting the wires instead of just splicing into them. so it went wire -> |box| -> wire.
                          I ended up actually cutting the wires and wiring them that way, actually. After having tried butt connectors and no luck, I thought for sure that was the issue. Didn't seem to be the case.

                          Also for what it's worth, I pulled the central locking module and inspected it for corrosion and it all looked fine. The little fuse thing that usually needs to be re-soldered was in great shape.

                          Hoping the tumbler issue is causing this.

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                          • jeffnhiscars
                            R3V OG
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 6010

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JCarp90
                            Pulled my lock tonight and found this:

                            Ordering 2 lock kits tomorrow and a driver's side actuator as well.

                            I ended up actually cutting the wires and wiring them that way, actually. After having tried butt connectors and no luck, I thought for sure that was the issue. Didn't seem to be the case.

                            Also for what it's worth, I pulled the central locking module and inspected it for corrosion and it all looked fine. The little fuse thing that usually needs to be re-soldered was in great shape.

                            Hoping the tumbler issue is causing this.
                            My lock looked just as nasty. If you turn the key you should see the double lock leg "bounce" a bit which will tell you the ball has done its damage. Either way, its out and a good thing to replace.

                            Here are a couple of links that really helped me.





                            I would also encourage you to install the new lock before you replace the actuator and do not..I repeat DO NOT...ever re-solder that thermal fuse with new solder. I won a dumb-ass award by frying all my actuators doing that :-)
                            Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                            https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                            Alice the Time Capsule
                            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                            87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                            • JCarp90
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 1759

                              #15
                              Originally posted by jeffnhiscars
                              My lock looked just as nasty. If you turn the key you should see the double lock leg "bounce" a bit which will tell you the ball has done its damage. Either way, its out and a good thing to replace.

                              Here are a couple of links that really helped me.





                              I would also encourage you to install the new lock before you replace the actuator and do not..I repeat DO NOT...ever re-solder that thermal fuse with new solder. I won a dumb-ass award by frying all my actuators doing that :-)
                              That's pretty much exactly what the lock did. Thanks for the info.

                              Also, thanks for the tip about the actuator. +1 internets for you.

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