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  • jeffnhiscars
    R3V OG
    • Jun 2011
    • 6010

    #1

    Folding Top Gas Struts

    Between the 2 cabrios and the spare top off my barn find, I don't think there is one good gas strut among them. It seems to me they should make lifting the top easier, although I have never seen anyone comment about them.

    Has anyone replaced them and seen a difference, does anyone give a crap and if I had some made for way less than the $40-50 or so they seem to cost, would anyone be interested ?
    Last edited by jeffnhiscars; 06-14-2016, 01:02 PM.
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  • MinnE30
    Advanced Member
    • Jun 2015
    • 108

    #2
    I had to replace mine over the winter. It does make it way easier to operate the soft top. Not having to balance between folding the top and keeping the lid from falling is very nice. But I'm one who appreciates things that work the way they're intended. If it doesn't bother you too much I probably wouldn't spend the 100 or so dollars to replace both


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    • jeffnhiscars
      R3V OG
      • Jun 2011
      • 6010

      #3
      Thanks for the input. I've always felt lifting the top out of the well was more work than it should be so I'm glad to hear this.

      Were you able to replace them with the too in the car ?
      Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

      https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
      Alice the Time Capsule
      http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
      87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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      • Das Delfin
        R3VLimited
        • Sep 2014
        • 2293

        #4
        You mean the ones holding the tonneau cover open or the short stubby ones inside the top scissor folding mechanism?

        I replaced all four a couple years ago. I think the tonneau covers were like 30 each.

        The ones inside the top arms (which help lift the top) have these plastic sleeves they fit inside. You have to buy the sleeves with the shocks. I tried going without it and the new shocks were super tight in the sleeves and it made it harder to lift the top. Over time plastic changes shape etc etc. They DEFINITELY help lift the top. And you can install them with the top on the car. Just get a flashlight and some long pliers and a long standard screwdriver and move the top in different positions to get to what you need to get to. I think it was 80 for both shocks and both sleeves at bavauto.


        it's a Kenny Powers quote on wheels

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        • jeffnhiscars
          R3V OG
          • Jun 2011
          • 6010

          #5
          The boot lid shocks I just replaced this morning since I can't get them made cheap enough so yes, I'm talking about the ones buried in the top mechanism. BavAuto wants $49 each and I don't think that includes the sleeve.

          I've asked for a quote from my at seat shock manufacturer since these seem to be the same size although obviously with different ends and 380N.

          Funny I never knew these things were in there.
          Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

          https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
          Alice the Time Capsule
          http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
          87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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          • Das Delfin
            R3VLimited
            • Sep 2014
            • 2293

            #6
            I found them by accident while looking for other stuff!


            it's a Kenny Powers quote on wheels

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            • e30rapidic
              R3VLimited
              • Oct 2003
              • 2167

              #7
              there are actually shocks in the top mechanism? LOL I have to look now, never noticed them!
              '87 325ic, powered by S50.

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              • jeffnhiscars
                R3V OG
                • Jun 2011
                • 6010

                #8
                Originally posted by e30rapidic
                there are actually shocks in the top mechanism? LOL I have to look now, never noticed them!
                Lol...exactly...now,you won't sleep until you replace them
                Seat Shocks....I have passed the baton to John Christy from Ninestitch. Email John or Garrett at ninestitch1@gmail.com

                https://www.r3vlimited.com/board/sho...86#post4944786
                Alice the Time Capsule
                http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=360504
                87 Zinno Cabrio barn find 98k and still smells like a barn. Build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/show...20#post3455220

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                • margas
                  Member
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 59

                  #9
                  I replaced mine with new ones. They were great when they worked but maybe after a couple years they were shot again. Haven't bothered replacing again.

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                  • Das Delfin
                    R3VLimited
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 2293

                    #10
                    ^ I've noticed my tonneau shocks are starting to go out again, after 2 years service. They haven't completely failed but aren't as stiff as they used to be


                    it's a Kenny Powers quote on wheels

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                    • amre
                      Noobie
                      • Jun 2016
                      • 8

                      #11
                      Just bought a '92 and when I'm opening the auto top the tonneau cover gets stuck on the rear part of the top when it's closing again. It looks like the rear part of the top doesn't go up far enough for the tonneau to clear it. Does replacing these shocks potentially help this?

                      Thanks,
                      -- Amre
                      '92 325i vert

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                      • cory58
                        E30 Enthusiast
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 1021

                        #12
                        Folding Top Gas Struts

                        amre - no. The rod that flips up the back of the top needs to be adjusted. It's one of the two that are connected to the motor in the right corner of the top well.
                        1992 325i Cabrio
                        1988 320i Touring
                        2000 M5
                        1977 530i
                        2015 328i - Euro Delivery/Performance Center Delivery
                        BMWCCA
                        E30CCA

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                        • amre
                          Noobie
                          • Jun 2016
                          • 8

                          #13
                          Thanks.

                          I tried adjusting it with no luck. I tried both extremes to move the nut to either end.

                          I'll try and post a picture later.
                          -- Amre
                          '92 325i vert

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                          • amre
                            Noobie
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Here are the pics. The black arrow shows the nut I tried to adjust. I tried adjusting it all the way both ways with no change. The toneau cover still doesn't clear the rear of the top. It's only off by a bit but enough to rub and scratch the top as it closes. I just ordered the two shocks in case that's it.
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                            -- Amre
                            '92 325i vert

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                            • cory58
                              E30 Enthusiast
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 1021

                              #15
                              Originally posted by amre
                              Here are the pics. The black arrow shows the nut I tried to adjust. I tried adjusting it all the way both ways with no change. The toneau cover still doesn't clear the rear of the top. It's only off by a bit but enough to rub and scratch the top as it closes. I just ordered the two shocks in case that's it.
                              Did you just move the nut back and forth, or did you disconnect the rod from the motor and rotate the rod? Moving the nut back and forth does nothing. It's just there to keep the 2 pieces of the rod from rotating accidentally. Rotating the back half of the rod changes the length.
                              1992 325i Cabrio
                              1988 320i Touring
                              2000 M5
                              1977 530i
                              2015 328i - Euro Delivery/Performance Center Delivery
                              BMWCCA
                              E30CCA

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