How to: Tell what head an M20 has, the 2 second way.

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  • Herr Faust Schinken
    No R3VLimiter
    • Feb 2012
    • 3580

    #16
    Yeah yours is an oem head the 885 casting mark on the sides proves it
    88 325is Five Speed
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    • cabriodster87
      E30 Enthusiast
      • Jan 2011
      • 1042

      #17
      I just found that i have the AMC head. It's like my baby is sick now.

      BMW how could you let this happen?
      Last edited by cabriodster87; 06-16-2012, 04:46 PM.
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      • MattAvino
        R3VLimited
        • Jan 2011
        • 2147

        #18
        Originally posted by reelizmpro
        so if you have an 87 325i with a "2.5/2.7" embossed head and torx headbolts you know they were changed at some point.
        The m20b25 I just pulled from my '87is has the '2.5' over the '2.7' stamped on the head. So has the head been replaced in the past?
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        • reelizmpro
          R3V OG
          • Dec 2003
          • 9448

          #19
          Originally posted by MattAvino
          The m20b25 I just pulled from my '87is has the '2.5' over the '2.7' stamped on the head. So has the head been replaced in the past?

          This or the entire engine.
          "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

          85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
          88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
          89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
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          • MattAvino
            R3VLimited
            • Jan 2011
            • 2147

            #20
            Very interesting, my motor or head has under 200k then.
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            http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=195286

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            • reelizmpro
              R3V OG
              • Dec 2003
              • 9448

              #21
              Probably snapped a timing belt before or overheated.
              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
              91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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              • markt51
                Grease Monkey
                • Apr 2012
                • 329

                #22
                Originally posted by reelizmpro
                87-88 cars came from the factory with 885 heads embossed with "2.5" only and hex headbolts. Even if your car was a super ETA 2.7 liter. 89-on heads had "2.5/2.7". These are the original specs, so if you have an 87 325i with a "2.5/2.7" embossed head and torx headbolts you know they were changed at some point.
                I have a 1989 325i, manufactured in 9/88 and my head only has the 2.5 on the circle and not 2.5/2.7. Is this the original head? or was it replaced with an older one at some point?
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                91 325i Sedan Auto Brilliantrot - Sold
                83 323i Euro Coupe Manual Lapisblue - Sold
                89 325i Coupe Manual Delphin - Sold
                89 325i Sedan Auto Brilliantrot
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                • mr.vang
                  R3V Elite
                  • May 2010
                  • 4371

                  #23
                  my eta head doesn't show what you had presented
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                  • reelizmpro
                    R3V OG
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 9448

                    #24
                    Originally posted by markt51
                    I have a 1989 325i, manufactured in 9/88 and my head only has the 2.5 on the circle and not 2.5/2.7. Is this the original head? or was it replaced with an older one at some point?
                    Probably was changed but I'm not sure of the exact cut off date. Take a pic of the engine bay for me. Does it have torx or hex headbolts?
                    "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                    85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                    88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                    89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                    91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                    • blueapplesoda
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 1904

                      #25
                      I'm assuming for those of you who have the machined down nub where it should say 2.5//2.7 or 2.5, the reman co machined the exhaust manifold mating surfaces down.

                      Sort of like the tell-tale casting dots on the bottom of the cylinder head, block mating surface, to tell you roughly how far the head is machined down. I believe there are 3 stages of dot depth, but I may be wrong. I have to look, i just know that once all those dots are gone, the head has been "used up".

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                      • actletpone
                        Noobie
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 20

                        #26
                        There is a head at my local bone yard which has the circle like the amc head. It does not have the other cast circle with 2.5/2.7 stamped on it, instead it has a bit like the eta at about cylinder 2 which just says 2.5. On the intake side it has 885 and the BMW enmblem. It is on a 1986 325.

                        What does this mean? Is it a 2.5 eta?.. can it be put on a 1990 325i ?
                        Last edited by actletpone; 10-24-2013, 08:07 PM.

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                        • 702pjc
                          Advanced Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 143

                          #27
                          I too have both the indentation mark and the 2.5/2.7 nub

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                          • meengreene30
                            Grease Monkey
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 369

                            #28
                            My 731 head i'm running.
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                            • whodwho
                              E30 Mastermind
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 1547

                              #29
                              Those are not the intake ports of a 731 head unless it has been port matched to a 325i manifold
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                              • meengreene30
                                Grease Monkey
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 369

                                #30
                                Originally posted by whodwho
                                Those are not the intake ports of a 731 head unless it has been port matched to a 325i manifold
                                Porting might have been done not sure. we were stumped with this motor too, came with a 272 cam, hd valvetrain. After a lot of searching we came up with it being a modified 731. Either way i'm really happy with this setup whatever it turns out to be, pulls a lil harder than my buddies 2.7i with same cam and valvetrain running headers.
                                Last edited by meengreene30; 10-27-2013, 09:10 AM.
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