How To Guide - E36 Steering Rack Swap

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  • 87e30
    R3V Elite
    • Jul 2008
    • 5676

    #406
    I ruesed locking plates but I know that mine are not in there properly.

    e36 rack e30 inner/outer tie rods.

    Which locking plates should I order?
    Originally posted by z31maniac
    I just hate everyone.

    No need for discretion.

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    • xer0trigger
      Wrencher
      • Apr 2008
      • 236

      #407
      Doesn't matter, but the E30 ones are much cheaper.
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      • 87e30
        R3V Elite
        • Jul 2008
        • 5676

        #408
        Originally posted by xer0trigger
        Doesn't matter, but the E30 ones are much cheaper.
        Why thank you.

        Sometime sooner than later I should get some of these.
        Originally posted by z31maniac
        I just hate everyone.

        No need for discretion.

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        • B3M2W5
          Wrencher
          • Nov 2006
          • 283

          #409
          Quick Tie Rod end question

          i work at a dealer and have ordered a new rack from the 1.9L Z3. This one came in rebuilt and has inner tie rod ends but no outers. Quick question if some one could answer if i would E30 ends to fit the car or Z3 ends to fit the inner tie rod ends of the rack and wich would be better.
          I would seach but dont have time. I only have an hour for break and parts cut off is 5pm and im replacing an E46 M3 clutch.
          Any help would be wonderfull thanks guys.

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          • B3M2W5
            Wrencher
            • Nov 2006
            • 283

            #410
            Ok got the tie rods figuered out an ordered.
            So if i read corectly
            The Z3 rack 1.9L is the same as the M3 rack it just stops at 2.9 or 2.7 turns instead of 3 full turns. Thus giving a smaller actual turning radius but less turns of your steering wheel.
            But all of them are better then the stock 4 turn L2L of the E30?

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            • Nic01101011
              E30 Mastermind
              • Jan 2008
              • 1550

              #411
              I just finished putting in a rack from a 95 M3

              Slightly off center, the steering is a bit quicker, but not too much

              But once you turn the wheel a little more, it quickens up real fast

              No more hand over hand wheel shuffling :)

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              • B3M2W5
                Wrencher
                • Nov 2006
                • 283

                #412
                Good to know. This really is a great write up.
                Yet i have come to find out that E30 outer tie rod ends to not fin on Z3 Inner tie rod ends they are both threaded on the out side. So now i have to wait and find some z3 outers. Dont really want to wait till monday to get them but hopfully Oreillys or an Advanced Auto parts has some for the time being.

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                • JGood
                  R3V OG
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7959

                  #413
                  Just went on realoem to figure out part numbers for the racks, though this info might be helpful:



                  Part 32131096280 (Rmfd hydro steering gear) was found on the following E36 vehicles:

                  E36 318i Convertible, M44, AUTO (BH83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Convertible, M42, AUTO (BK63) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Convertible, M42, MANUAL (BK53) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Convertible, M44, MANUAL (BH73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M42, AUTO (CA63) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M44, AUTO (CD83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M44, AUTO (CC03) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M42, AUTO (CC83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M42, MANUAL (CA53) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M44, MANUAL (CD73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M44, MANUAL (CC93) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318i Sedan, M42, MANUAL (CC73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318is Coupe, M44, AUTO (BE83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318is Coupe, M42, AUTO (BE63) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318is Coupe, M44, MANUAL (BE73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318is Coupe, M42, MANUAL (BE53) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318ti Compact, M44, AUTO (CG83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318ti Compact, M42, AUTO (CG63) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318ti Compact, M44, MANUAL (CG73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 318ti Compact, M42, MANUAL (CG53) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 320i Sedan, M50, AUTO (CB23) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 320i Sedan, M50, MANUAL (CB13) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 323i Convertible, M52, AUTO (BJ83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 323i Convertible, M52, MANUAL (BJ73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 323i Coupe, M52, AUTO (BF83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 323i Coupe, M52, MANUAL (BF73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 325i Convertible, M50, AUTO (BJ63) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 325i Convertible, M50, MANUAL (BJ53) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 325i Sedan, M50, AUTO (CB43) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 325i Sedan, M50, MANUAL (CB33) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 325is Coupe, M50, AUTO (BF43) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 325is Coupe, M50, MANUAL (BF33) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Convertible, M52, AUTO (BK83) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Convertible, M52, MANUAL (BK73) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Coupe, M52, AUTO (BG23) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Coupe, M52, MANUAL (BG13) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Sedan, M52, AUTO (CD43) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Sedan, M52, AUTO (CD23) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Sedan, M52, MANUAL (CD33) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 328i Sedan, M52, MANUAL (CD13) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 M3 Convertible, S52, AUTO (BK03) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 M3 Convertible, S52, MANUAL (BK93) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 M3 Coupe, S52, MANUAL (BG93) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 M3 Sedan, S52, AUTO (CD03) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 M3 Sedan, S52, MANUAL (CD93) : POWER STEERING

                  Z3 Z3 M Coupe, S52 (CM93) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 M Coupe, S54 (CN93) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 M Roadster, S54 (CL93) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 M Roadster, S52 (CK93) : POWER STEERING



                  Part 32131095575 (Rmfd hydro steering gear) was found on the following vehicles:


                  Z3 Z3 1.9 Roadster, M44 (CH73) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 2.5 Roadster, M52 (CH93) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 2.5i Roadster, M54 (CN33) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 2.8 Coupe, M52 (CK53) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 2.8 Roadster, M52 (CJ33) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 2.8 Roadster, M52 (CH33) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 3.0i Coupe, M54 (CK73) : POWER STEERING
                  Z3 Z3 3.0i Roadster, M54 (CN53) : POWER STEERING



                  Part 32132227191 (Rmfd hydro steering gear) was found on the following E36 vehicles:

                  E36 M3 Coupe, S50, AUTO (BF03) : POWER STEERING
                  E36 M3 Coupe, S50, MANUAL (BF93) : POWER STEERING
                  85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                  e30 restoration and V8 swap
                  24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                  • sharky
                    R3VLimited
                    • Jan 2005
                    • 2672

                    #414
                    so what is the actual length of the spacer needed?

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                    • Nic01101011
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 1550

                      #415
                      The spacer length for the modified knuckle is 5/8".
                      The spacer length to mount the rack is 9/16"(if memory serves me correctly - this is easy to figure out on your own though). Spacers made for 3/8" bolts work perfectly here..

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                      • JGood
                        R3V OG
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7959

                        #416
                        Has anyone purchased the AKG kit for $34? That price sounds damn good for hardware designed for this, from a reputable company.

                        I made my own 2 years ago when I installed my M3 rack, but I think when I do the swap in my other e30 I'll buy the kit from AKG.
                        85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                        e30 restoration and V8 swap
                        24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                        • Nic01101011
                          E30 Mastermind
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 1550

                          #417
                          its a ripoff for a couple spacers and bolts

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                          • sharky
                            R3VLimited
                            • Jan 2005
                            • 2672

                            #418
                            So I went to install my rack today (96 M3) in my 87is and where it mounts to the subframe there is a 1/2 in space in between the rack and the subframe mounts, I guess I can get some spacers but I havent heard of this problem before, any insight?

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                            • JGood
                              R3V OG
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 7959

                              #419
                              Originally posted by sharky
                              So I went to install my rack today (96 M3) in my 87is and where it mounts to the subframe there is a 1/2 in space in between the rack and the subframe mounts, I guess I can get some spacers but I havent heard of this problem before, any insight?

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                              85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                              e30 restoration and V8 swap
                              24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                              • bimmer630
                                E30 Fanatic
                                • Mar 2009
                                • 1228

                                #420
                                I have looked through this thread and I dont see a definitive answer on whether or not new low pressure lines are needed. I have a rack from a 92 325 and the high press line too.. i can get the spacers and hardware, but do i REALLY need to change out the hoses?

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