How To Guide - E36 Steering Rack Swap

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  • japspecvr6
    Mod Crazy
    • Apr 2005
    • 602

    #121
    i think the z3 Has a 2 and a half turning radius...........

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    • RobertK
      Kicked cancer's ASS.
      • Jun 2005
      • 5864

      #122
      Actually I think the Z3 rack is 2.8 turning radius as opposed to the 95 M3 rack having 3.0

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      • Addissimo
        E30 Mastermind
        • Mar 2004
        • 1820

        #123
        When you put the z3 rack in the e30, you get about a 2.9 ratio... not quite 2.7 in the z3, not quite 3.0... but 2.9. But it was easily the best mod I did to the cabrio.

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        • Rocla
          E30 Modder
          • Aug 2006
          • 922

          #124
          It seems that euro E30's have different steering joint. I found good instruction for RHD cars, either zionsville way or the RHD way won't work with euro parts. I have no idea what joint to use.

          Help.
          Current:

          BMW 320i 2d 2.0 m20 -88
          BMW 325i Cabriolet 2.5 m50 -88
          BMW 316i touring 1.6 m40 -90
          BMW 320i 4d 2,2 m54 -01

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          • BDSax
            Junkyard King
            • Mar 2006
            • 3593

            #125
            well got my e36 rack today for $8. thanks for the write up and parts list!
            NEED SOME VINYL STICKERS???

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            • RobertK
              Kicked cancer's ASS.
              • Jun 2005
              • 5864

              #126
              Originally posted by Rocla
              It seems that euro E30's have different steering joint. I found good instruction for RHD cars, either zionsville way or the RHD way won't work with euro parts. I have no idea what joint to use.

              Help.
              Might something similar to the E36 joint because I notice that sometimes the realoem etk show a completely different joint for some reason in the first few diagrams you can choose from.

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              • Rocla
                E30 Modder
                • Aug 2006
                • 922

                #127
                Originally posted by Ritalin Kid
                Might something similar to the E36 joint because I notice that sometimes the realoem etk show a completely different joint for some reason in the first few diagrams you can choose from.
                Euro e36 joint has nothing in common with euro e30 joint. I have both and can't figure out what to use, nothing fits and euro e30 joint can't be shortened.
                Current:

                BMW 320i 2d 2.0 m20 -88
                BMW 325i Cabriolet 2.5 m50 -88
                BMW 316i touring 1.6 m40 -90
                BMW 320i 4d 2,2 m54 -01

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                • RobertK
                  Kicked cancer's ASS.
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 5864

                  #128
                  In the articles section at www.e30zone.co.uk they have a write up of how to retro fit the E36 rack on euro E30 cars using parts from both the e30 and e36 knuckle.

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                  • Rocla
                    E30 Modder
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 922

                    #129
                    Originally posted by Ritalin Kid
                    In the articles section at www.e30zone.co.uk they have a write up of how to retro fit the E36 rack on euro E30 cars using parts from both the e30 and e36 knuckle.
                    For RHD car, will not workyworky with my LHD car :(

                    I think I should get U.S. e30 or RHD e36joint joint. Both veryhard to come by over here.
                    Last edited by Rocla; 03-12-2007, 05:59 AM.
                    Current:

                    BMW 320i 2d 2.0 m20 -88
                    BMW 325i Cabriolet 2.5 m50 -88
                    BMW 316i touring 1.6 m40 -90
                    BMW 320i 4d 2,2 m54 -01

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                    • JGood
                      R3V OG
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7959

                      #130
                      I started working on my 95 M3 rack swap today. What a bitch.

                      The tabs on the M3 rack were bent so hard against he tie rods I had to just break the locking tab to get them out.

                      The pipes that come off of the rack and go back into the rack are in the way of the subframe so I had to bend them.

                      The knuckle doesn't have enough room for a run-of-the-mill M10x50 bolt, you need one with a small head to clear the curved part of the knuckle. One of the plastic inserts broke so now the bolt is a little sloppy.

                      I was going to cut a spacer I found laying around for the knuckle, but at this point I think I'm just going to use the washers I had on there for a mock-up, it seems like it distributed the weight better then my skinny spacer.

                      On a good note, I used the upper seat belt mounting bolt spacers from an e30 as my rack mounting spacers, worked perfect.

                      I don't have power steering now and don't plan on reinstalling it, so thank god I don't have to worry about that shit.



                      And before some smart ass replies, Yes, I did think the rack was just going to drop right in with no effort, haha.
                      85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                      e30 restoration and V8 swap
                      24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                      • Teaguer
                        R3V OG
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 6167

                        #131
                        Originally posted by JGood
                        And before some smart ass replies, Yes, I did think the rack was just going to drop right in with no effort, haha.

                        Man that is too much work for an pink Eta . :p

                        E30 M3 / E30 325is / E34 525iT / E34 535i

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                        • JGood
                          R3V OG
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7959

                          #132
                          Originally posted by Teaguer
                          Man that is too much work for an pink Eta . :p
                          lol

                          I'm building a k27 motor for it... no more eta soon enough.

                          I kind of like the little thing though, in it's 5300 rpm's of glory.
                          85 325e m60b44 6 speed / 89 535i
                          e30 restoration and V8 swap
                          24 Hours of Lemons e30 build

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                          • talltorontoguy
                            Wrencher
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 267

                            #133
                            I'm planning to do a rack swap in my E30 vert.

                            I came across a rack that is apparently from a Z3 M Roadster, and also fits all euro E36 sedan or coupe.

                            The research I've done says that Z3 or any US spec E36 rack will fit. It doesn't say the M Roadster or euro spec E36 racks won't fit.

                            I don't know the difference in racks between a euro spec and US spec E36, but assuming there is none, why wouldn't the euro rack be suitable for use to swap on an E30?

                            Can anyone confirm the euro spec rack will not fit, and if not, why?
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                            • Rocla
                              E30 Modder
                              • Aug 2006
                              • 922

                              #134
                              Originally posted by talltorontoguy
                              I'm planning to do a rack swap in my E30 vert.

                              I came across a rack that is apparently from a Z3 M Roadster, and also fits all euro E36 sedan or coupe.

                              The research I've done says that Z3 or any US spec E36 rack will fit. It doesn't say the M Roadster or euro spec E36 racks won't fit.

                              I don't know the difference in racks between a euro spec and US spec E36, but assuming there is none, why wouldn't the euro rack be suitable for use to swap on an E30?

                              Can anyone confirm the euro spec rack will not fit, and if not, why?
                              AFAIK All LHD racks bolt on, only the steering joint is different U.S. vs euro.
                              Current:

                              BMW 320i 2d 2.0 m20 -88
                              BMW 325i Cabriolet 2.5 m50 -88
                              BMW 316i touring 1.6 m40 -90
                              BMW 320i 4d 2,2 m54 -01

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                              • Cm50
                                Noobie
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 9

                                #135
                                Can you use Z3 tie rods if you installed a z3 rack? I bought a reman Z3 rack that had new inner tie rods already nicely installed and with proper boot clamps, but I just realized the z3 inners won't work with the e30 outers.. I can either replaced the inners with my old e30 tie rods or buy new z3 outers, I'm just concerned they won't be the right length or won't have the right bends.. Has anyone done this? Used z3 rack and tie rods in an e30?

                                Thanks,
                                Colin

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