How To Guide - E36 Steering Rack Swap

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  • HST
    Mod Crazy
    • Jan 2006
    • 757

    #466
    Originally posted by dude8383
    Your 98 M3 rack will work. I doubt you will REALLY notice the 3.0 L-L as opposed the 3.25 L-L with the 98 rack.

    You may use both inner and outer tie-rods with the rack. I'm not sure if you can mix and match though.


    I know that E30 outers will fit on E36 inners. I'd assume it works in reverce.
    Originally posted by KingB
    Scratch my back and I buy a prostitute for you, to rub your balls. HAHA now thats some funny shit.

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    • HST
      Mod Crazy
      • Jan 2006
      • 757

      #467
      Originally posted by fpmbw325
      im looking to do this swap, how long does it take if you do it on the floor n how long in a shop
      With a friend, and the knuckle already bulit, 2 hours from jacking up the car, to driving to the alignment shop.
      Originally posted by KingB
      Scratch my back and I buy a prostitute for you, to rub your balls. HAHA now thats some funny shit.

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      • herlsy
        Grease Monkey
        • Sep 2009
        • 339

        #468
        Any suggestions on where to buy return hoses like the ones the OP used? Tried my local chain stores, they weren't very helpful. Cheers.

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        • ian e30 318is
          E30 Mastermind
          • Mar 2007
          • 1804

          #469
          z3 rack>all. just put mine in. bought it for 150 and lathed some aluminum spacers. After some parts from the dealer, price came out to under 200! best modification I have done to my e30 yet. Steering is super tight and quick!

          1991 LS1 Swapped 318is
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          • mightywhitey
            E30 Modder
            • Oct 2009
            • 985

            #470
            my car is in m52 swap mode. no engine in so I figured a good time to do the swap. I got the old one out and new one in and lined up in about 20 minutes now here are my questions.

            Do I have to remove the cooling tubes if I am going to have a m52 motor?

            If I have a air bag car which I do 91 325 can i just cut the splined piece attached to the knuckle or is spacing still the best option?
            1991 e30 328i M52 swapped: Gone
            1995 e34 540i/6 1 of 76 Clean
            1985 e28 euro 525i the daily

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            • ian e30 318is
              E30 Mastermind
              • Mar 2007
              • 1804

              #471
              Originally posted by mightywhitey
              If I have a air bag car which I do 91 325 can i just cut the splined piece attached to the knuckle or is spacing still the best option?
              I have an airbag e30 and all i did was machine the spacers for the two mounting bolts that attach the steering rack to the chassis. I also moved the steering rack from the back two holes to the front two on the tabs that were bent to take out the old rack. I didn't have to modify the splined piece at all. I don't know about your other question seeing as I still have my m42 :( haha

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              • cobraken
                Mod Crazy
                • Oct 2004
                • 674

                #472
                Originally posted by ian e30 318is
                z3 rack>all. just put mine in. bought it for 150 and lathed some aluminum spacers. After some parts from the dealer, price came out to under 200! best modification I have done to my e30 yet. Steering is super tight and quick!
                Which Tie rod set up did you use?
                Randall Racing and Engineering
                Acworth, Georgia, 30101
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                • ian e30 318is
                  E30 Mastermind
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1804

                  #473
                  Originally posted by cobraken
                  Which Tie rod set up did you use?
                  I bought brand new e30 toe rods for my old rack so I just reused those. I did have to buy new flat lock washers though instead of the washers with the notch in the center for the e30 rack. Im not sure but I think the e36 and e30 tie rods are interchangeable.

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                  • Todd Black 88
                    No R3VLimiter
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3449

                    #474
                    Originally posted by ian e30 318is
                    I bought brand new e30 toe rods for my old rack so I just reused those. I did have to buy new flat lock washers though instead of the washers with the notch in the center for the e30 rack. Im not sure but I think the e36 and e30 tie rods are interchangeable.
                    This is the question I was hoping to find in here. The real oem shows no locking plates for the 1.9l z3 rack, and the e30 has the notched ones for the tie rods.
                    Do you have a specific part number for what lock plates to use for z3 rack with e30 tierods?
                    Originally posted by codyep3
                    I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
                    2001 silver/Blk 325 cabby. SOLD
                    1988 Blk/Blk e30 factory wide body kit car SOLD
                    1992 DS/BLK 325 m-tech II apperance pack cabby SOLD!
                    2002 325xit Sil/blk. SOLD
                    2012 328i xdrive touring. Wht/blk. SOLD
                    2009 135 cabby. monacoblue/blk leather SOLD
                    2007 Z4m coupe. Silver grey/black/ aluminum. 1of50
                    2010 F650gs twin
                    2016 M235i cabby. Mineral grey/Red leather

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                    • ian e30 318is
                      E30 Mastermind
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1804

                      #475
                      Originally posted by Todd Black 88
                      This is the question I was hoping to find in here. The real oem shows no locking plates for the 1.9l z3 rack, and the e30 has the notched ones for the tie rods.
                      Do you have a specific part number for what lock plates to use for z3 rack with e30 tierods?
                      I had the same problem finding them. I went to the dealership and they didnt have any for the z3 rack so I pounded down the notch on my e30 ones and used them. haha it works just fine.

                      1991 LS1 Swapped 318is
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                      • Todd Black 88
                        No R3VLimiter
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 3449

                        #476
                        Hmm, any other options out there, or is it better to go with the z3's tie rods?
                        Will the z3 tie rods work?
                        Originally posted by codyep3
                        I hope to Christ you have looks going for you, because you sure as fuck don't have any intelligence.
                        2001 silver/Blk 325 cabby. SOLD
                        1988 Blk/Blk e30 factory wide body kit car SOLD
                        1992 DS/BLK 325 m-tech II apperance pack cabby SOLD!
                        2002 325xit Sil/blk. SOLD
                        2012 328i xdrive touring. Wht/blk. SOLD
                        2009 135 cabby. monacoblue/blk leather SOLD
                        2007 Z4m coupe. Silver grey/black/ aluminum. 1of50
                        2010 F650gs twin
                        2016 M235i cabby. Mineral grey/Red leather

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                        • BraveUlysses
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 3781

                          #477
                          Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu this is a complete PITA on an airbag car.

                          I've opened up the firewall plenty (not rubbing or binding due to firewall), but still can't get the knuckle to line up with each of the slots on the splines. They're off by at least a 1/4" each, any suggestions?

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                          • ian e30 318is
                            E30 Mastermind
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 1804

                            #478
                            Originally posted by BraveUlysses
                            Ffffffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu this is a complete PITA on an airbag car.

                            I've opened up the firewall plenty (not rubbing or binding due to firewall), but still can't get the knuckle to line up with each of the slots on the splines. They're off by at least a 1/4" each, any suggestions?
                            Is your avatar mf doom? alright so what exactly is your problem? do you have a picture? you definitely need some force and wd40 to get the splined part to go into the column

                            1991 LS1 Swapped 318is
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                            LS Build Thread:
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                            • dnova89
                              E30 Modder
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 851

                              #479
                              damn i'm having a hard time getting my hands on a rack. Maval is dead out of stock on both the z3 and e36 racks. anyone know another good source?
                              -Darius (aka DiscoDoughnuts on other forums)

                              dude man bro...

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                              • ian e30 318is
                                E30 Mastermind
                                • Mar 2007
                                • 1804

                                #480
                                Originally posted by dnova89
                                damn i'm having a hard time getting my hands on a rack. Maval is dead out of stock on both the z3 and e36 racks. anyone know another good source?
                                ummmm...how bout the junkyard ;) but seriously

                                1991 LS1 Swapped 318is
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