Miller W.A.R. Machine

[straight6pwr]

this all looks like great stuff! but to get to the point, if you were to add a complete kit of ALL the miller stuff, what would it cost and what would the gain be? (Dollars/HP)

[brody]

Some more eye candy for those that like pictures!

Here is the new batch of 20 during production. The new stock will be powder coated tomorrow and ready for shipment this week :twisted:

[brody]

Hey Guys

Again, thanks for your support! We sold out of the last batch of 5 within 2 weeks of their "in stock" status. So that means there are a little more than a dozen out there making people smile!

Today 20 PSIK tubes arrived from our tubing manufacturer and we will have a couple back-orders filled Monday/Tuesday with plenty of stock to go for those that wanted to wait for stock.



Here they are before we finish the fabrication.



Thanks again guys!

[brody]

Brody-call me, im pretty big in the south east Porsche community. I am sure I am can move some units, I have someone that wants a MAF/war now for a 951. Let me know what you need as far ECU's are concerned I have access to 951,964,993 race cars some older ferrari, Sciricco......

I will try and call you today. I got to get a bunch of stuff done today that I am behind on.

[briansjacobs]

Brody-call me, im pretty big in the south east Porsche community. I am sure I am can move some units, I have someone that wants a MAF/war now for a 951. Let me know what you need as far ECU's are concerned I have access to 951,964,993 race cars some older ferrari, Sciricco......

[brody]

WinOLS for development, and the appropriate hardware.

[ForcedFirebird]

Just curious as to what hex editor you are using is all, to edit the binary.

[brody]

This is why I can't tune some stuff as well. Haven't got much (or any, really) experience making the display files for the software. What kind of editing software is being used in your conversion?

I'm not sure what your referring to, our software for the WAR chip or what we use for actual development?

[ForcedFirebird]

We actually have some porsche stuff ready, just not published on our site yet.
We have our MAF conversions and WAR Chips ready for the 944 N/A and the turbo stuff will be ready this month. As more Porsche stuff trickles in, more support will be available.

Really our WAR Chip works for a lot of things. Nissan, Volvo, Audi, VW, BMW, some Mercedes some ferarri's and a few other not so common euro cars. The only hold back is that we haven't had the opportunity to set up the .ECU configuration display files for all the applicable ECU's

This is why I can't tune some stuff as well. Haven't got much (or any, really) experience making the display files for the software. What kind of editing software is being used in your conversion?

[brody]

Brody- what are the possibliities of running a war chip in a porsche, bosch motronic is all pretty much the same right?

We actually have some porsche stuff ready, just not published on our site yet.
We have our MAF conversions and WAR Chips ready for the 944 N/A and the turbo stuff will be ready this month. As more Porsche stuff trickles in, more support will be available.

Really our WAR Chip works for a lot of things. Nissan, Volvo, Audi, VW, BMW, some Mercedes some ferarri's and a few other not so common euro cars. The only hold back is that we haven't had the opportunity to set up the .ECU configuration display files for all the applicable ECU's

[briansjacobs]

Brody- what are the possibliities of running a war chip in a porsche, bosch motronic is all pretty much the same right?

[cyberkaa]

Awesome thread. I've loved the MAF conversion ever since I installed it. Nice to see there's some more power to be gained.

[brody]

I see what you mean. The graph I was referring to has all the mods to it. Smart fan and exhaust with normal GEN iii MAF, the that same set up with the PSIK in place of the MAF. We have a local car coming in shortly that we will be able to install the MAF first for sake of a plain jane comparison.

The test comments are misleading but before we had the PSIK we had a "prostreet" package idea that consisted of the MAF, WAR Chip and Smart Fan. If you look on BF.c you'll find a thread talking about this package that never came to fruition.

[digger]

There is a before and after on the website for the PSIK compared to the MAF. It's the last one on the list there.

When you try to eliminate the tuning variable of a gain vs just bolting it on you create a major flaw. A) a MAF sensor will only work on these cars with a retune period. B) you can tune in a different manner thanks to th characteristics of a product, in this case, the MAF or PSIK.

So you can't compare the gains from simply "bolting" a product like this on, the car will not work without the tune. They are both 100% dependent on one another. And in my opinion, any actual performance enhancing product that is truley worth while needs a complimentary revision of software.

According to the test comments for the last graph this compares "PSIK" to "PSIK + exhaust".

The 3rd graph compares MILLER GENIII MAF to PSIK but the PSIK has * which means

2.5" High Flow exhaust, Miller M30 Throttle body kit and Miller Smart Fan


So it does not show the gains from the PSIK alone.

I think you misunderstand what i am asking.

1)The original MAF system with stock intake is tuned for that setup
2)The PSIK is also a MAF system tuned for the new intake.

Hence the difference between the two shows the difference from the Induction Kit and effect of tuning becomes irrelevant.

All that is needed is

A) Run stock healthy car
B) Run same car but with GENIII MAF only
C) Run same car but with PSIK

There are graphs of A vs B and A vs C but not B vs C on the same car

[brody]

There is a before and after on the website for the PSIK compared to the MAF. It's the last one on the list there.

When you try to eliminate the tuning variable of a gain vs just bolting it on you create a major flaw. A) a MAF sensor will only work on these cars with a retune period. B) you can tune in a different manner thanks to th characteristics of a product, in this case, the MAF or PSIK.

So you can't compare the gains from simply "bolting" a product like this on, the car will not work without the tune. They are both 100% dependent on one another. And in my opinion, any actual performance enhancing product that is truley worth while needs a complimentary revision of software.