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  • RobE30
    E30 Modder
    • Feb 2009
    • 959

    #1

    Miller mass air

    I know this has been out on the market for a while now. Who on here is using it? Anybody? Miller claims it to be decent but, I interested to hear some real world feedback. Now that I'm keeping my car, I'd like to upgrade the software a bit to match the cam and 17# injectors.
    09 BMW 328xi touring 6spd
    05 Subaru Outback XT 5spd
    87 BMW 325is
    a few bicycles
  • bastianshaw
    R3VLimited
    • Jan 2007
    • 2210

    #2
    Then you need a war chip.
    I don't know if the psik gives the gains claimed. I won't believe it until I see independent dyno results, but if the gains are as advertised I'd be in.

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    • SkiFree
      R3VLimited
      • Jun 2011
      • 2766

      #3
      Rob, use the search function, this has been covered many MANY times before. You should be able to find all the independent review you're looking for within a few minutes.
      ADAMS Autosport

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      • brody
        Grease Monkey
        • Jul 2009
        • 334

        #4
        Originally posted by bastianshaw
        Then you need a war chip.
        I don't know if the psik gives the gains claimed. I won't believe it until I see independent dyno results, but if the gains are as advertised I'd be in.
        I'd love to help some of you skeptics out. For the most part, people who actually buy products are busy using them. For every 25 customers 1 is a forum member on one of the major forums. We like to joke that we are all busy talking about it here while others are just getting it done lol.

        I would love to cover dyno time to someone who wants an "independent" review so bad. Whether its our MAF or the PSIK, we will cover the dyno cost for some before and after runs. If you are not happy with the performance improvements we will buy back the PSIK do you won't be out of pocket for the review should you hate it.

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        • digger
          R3V Elite
          • Nov 2005
          • 5911

          #5
          come on you cheap asses take them up on their offer......
          89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

          new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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          • bastianshaw
            R3VLimited
            • Jan 2007
            • 2210

            #6
            Brody, I'm in.
            Pm sent
            Last edited by bastianshaw; 12-24-2011, 09:47 PM.

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            • devon.818
              Banned
              • Feb 2011
              • 2937

              #7
              shit i'll take you up on the offer! building a 2.7i for boost but the first 5k on the rebuild gonna do a nice easy break in! brody i'll be hitting you up in a bit

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              • nando
                Moderator
                • Nov 2003
                • 34827

                #8
                I'd test a PSIK if you'd sell one without a MAF..
                Build thread

                Bimmerlabs

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                • backwoodsE30
                  Advanced Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 122

                  #9
                  PISK with the MAF and W.A.R. chip unbeatable upgrade! Blows my mind every day just on a base tune and full exhaust. When the block comes back from the machine shop and the VAC stage 3 head goes on it should really pay off! Cant wait
                  alcoholics do it till you barf

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                  • Sagaris
                    R3VLimited
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 2243

                    #10
                    Originally posted by backwoodsE30
                    PISK with the MAF and W.A.R. chip unbeatable upgrade! Blows my mind every day just on a base tune and full exhaust. When the block comes back from the machine shop and the VAC stage 3 head goes on it should really pay off! Cant wait
                    groovy, post accel. vids when its done

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                    • ROLLingKING
                      E30 Enthusiast
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1169

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SkiFree
                      Rob, use the search function, this has been covered many MANY times before. You should be able to find all the independent review you're looking for within a few minutes.
                      m20 is plenty. im simply a drifter.
                      build thread -- http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=206510

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                      • MR 325
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 37825

                        #12
                        Originally posted by brody
                        I'd love to help some of you skeptics out. For the most part, people who actually buy products are busy using them. For every 25 customers 1 is a forum member on one of the major forums. We like to joke that we are all busy talking about it here while others are just getting it done lol.
                        It's almost you're dissing the forum community here.

                        These forums are a BIG part of the E30 scene so the more people who talk about your products here, the more interest and sales you will receive. Not everyone will drop hundreds of dollars on parts without being able to read reviews on them.
                        BimmerHeads
                        Classic BMW Specialists
                        Santa Clarita, CA

                        www.BimmerHeads.com

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                        • brody
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 334

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MR 325
                          It's almost you're dissing the forum community here.

                          These forums are a BIG part of the E30 scene so the more people who talk about your products here, the more interest and sales you will receive. Not everyone will drop hundreds of dollars on parts without being able to read reviews on them.
                          Notice how I said we like to joke even though it has a bit of truth to it. It's a literal figure that 1/25 customers are actual participating members. It's also funny how you had my post deleted when I was trying to help the community in your thread about what is possible without having to open a bottom end up especially when you DO have head work involved.

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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            I'd LOVE to see a 200whp dyno chart of an M20B25. seriously. where's our unicorn?

                            heck, I'd even like to see a bolt-ons 185whp M20B25.
                            Build thread

                            Bimmerlabs

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                            • MR 325
                              Moderator
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 37825

                              #15
                              Originally posted by nando
                              I'd LOVE to see a 200whp dyno chart of an M20B25. seriously. where's our unicorn?

                              heck, I'd even like to see a bolt-ons 185whp M20B25.
                              Exactly.

                              Maybe most of his sales are off the forums because there's nobody like you and I to question his overly optimistic horsepower numbers.
                              BimmerHeads
                              Classic BMW Specialists
                              Santa Clarita, CA

                              www.BimmerHeads.com

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