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  • CrJdMc
    Advanced Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 195

    #1

    272 cam horsepower gains?

    i have seen several threads on this same subject, but they seem to all be wishy washy, or go off topic. I was just contemplating getting a 272 cam for my 87 325is, and was wondering what i could expect? im hoping i could see another 15 hp from this cam? thanks r3v!
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  • Robotin
    R3V Elite
    • Jun 2011
    • 4471

    #2
    you probably need to be more specific, because usually when you get a a larger cam, u should have other modifications such as a MAF, larger injectors, and a proper tune.

    obviously you are gonna gain power, but what is your ultimate goal?
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    • CrJdMc
      Advanced Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 195

      #3
      I would enjoy a 15hp increase from the cam. I am going to have a Conforti chip, 20lb injectors headers(most likely ebay) to a megan racing muffler and hopefully an extrude hone intake manifold eventually, but cam is next on my list.
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      • F34R
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        • May 2009
        • 12390

        #4
        The gains are hard to nail down from throwing all those planed upgrades in. Only way to know 100% is to dyno, but I see no reason why with that list and a proper tune chip will not get the gains you're seeking.

        I highly suggest new b25 valve springs with the cam. I also think you should run a 17.5lb injector from the M50. They will handle the 272 and upgrades perfectly.
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        • acolella76
          R3VLimited
          • Apr 2010
          • 2950

          #5
          You can probably get 300whp easy NA with a 272˚ cam and eta intake manifold
          -Alex

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          • ZM Blue Devil
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            • Dec 2006
            • 13836

            #6
            Originally posted by acolella76
            You can probably get 300whp easy NA with a 272˚ cam and eta intake manifold
            at least.:up:
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            • HawaiianE30
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 81

              #7
              They don't usually tell you this in the manual but if you put the sticker that comes with the cam on your hood... sorta askew down near the front it adds ~10rhp on a good day.
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              • CrJdMc
                Advanced Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 195

                #8
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                • F34R
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                  • May 2009
                  • 12390

                  #9
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                  • CrJdMc
                    Advanced Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 195

                    #10
                    So, i don't want to take up more bandwidth, but i have a question, would a 288 or 284 cam be ok to be driven daily? And i can only assume the power would be much greater right?
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                    • digger
                      R3V Elite
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 5912

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CrJdMc
                      So, i don't want to take up more bandwidth, but i have a question, would a 288 or 284 cam be ok to be driven daily? And i can only assume the power would be much greater right?
                      forget about a 288 it is a terrible choice on anything but a highly modified M20 build to run that cam
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                      • jlevie
                        R3V OG
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 13530

                        #12
                        Before spending money on a cam, I'd suggest assessing the condition of the engine. Compression (dry & wet) and leak down tests will tell how much wear there is in the engine and where it is. If the results show the cylinders in good condition, you can frequently pick up 10-15hp on a 150k engine by a good head refresh (3 angle valve grind, new or blueprinted cam). If the cylinders have over 15% leak down numbers, new rings and cross hatch honing of the block should be seriously considered.

                        Case in point. I bought a 120k mile engine out of a 525i (auto) for a previous SE30. The numbers (on a dyno jet) were disappointing, 143rwhp. Compression numbers were pretty good, but leak down numbers were 20-30%. That car got destroyed late in the season and the engine was torn down and rebuilt while I built the new car. It did get an overbore because the cylinders were past the wear limit and the head was carefully rebuilt. The car then made 162rwhp on the same dyno. That is a 19hp increase just from making everything in the engine right and using a bone stock engine management system (mods aren't allowed in SE30).

                        I got similar results on my 150k restoration project (an 87 325is).
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                        • bastianshaw
                          R3VLimited
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 2210

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jlevie
                          Before spending money on a cam, I'd suggest assessing the condition of the engine. Compression (dry & wet) and leak down tests will tell how much wear there is in the engine and where it is. If the results show the cylinders in good condition, you can frequently pick up 10-15hp on a 150k engine by a good head refresh (3 angle valve grind, new or blueprinted cam). If the cylinders have over 15% leak down numbers, new rings and cross hatch honing of the block should be seriously considered.

                          Case in point. I bought a 120k mile engine out of a 525i (auto) for a previous SE30. The numbers (on a dyno jet) were disappointing, 143rwhp. Compression numbers were pretty good, but leak down numbers were 20-30%. That car got destroyed late in the season and the engine was torn down and rebuilt while I built the new car. It did get an overbore because the cylinders were past the wear limit and the head was carefully rebuilt. The car then made 162rwhp on the same dyno. That is a 19hp increase just from making everything in the engine right and using a bone stock engine management system (mods aren't allowed in SE30).

                          I got similar results on my 150k restoration project (an 87 325is).
                          ^this is good info
                          with a simple CHIP we are now talking 40Hp

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                          • sayed ali
                            Mod Crazy
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 762

                            #14
                            Originally posted by acolella76
                            You can probably get 300whp easy NA with a 272˚ cam and eta intake manifold
                            Impossible!


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                            • Kershaw
                              R3V OG
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 11822

                              #15
                              Originally posted by acolella76
                              You can probably get 300whp easy NA with a 272˚ cam and eta intake manifold
                              i think that's a little bit of a conservative estimate.
                              AWD > RWD

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