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  • Stanley Rockafella
    R3V Elite
    • Aug 2011
    • 4056

    #1

    Weak fan clutch?

    WHen idling in traffic I'm forced to turn on the heater to bring down the engine temps. When the car is at 3/4 mark, I blip the throttle and I don't get that "whooshing" sound that indicated the fan clutch is fully engaged.

    Does this mean it needs replacing? The car doesnt' lose any coolant and has had the air bled out of the coolant, but this is just silly having to turn on the heat in the middle of summer to keep the engine cool. Seems to me like the clutch is "lazy" as it seems to engage when the car is first started in the mornings

    thanks in advance
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  • EatsHondas
    E30 Addict
    • Sep 2012
    • 404

    #2
    If you don't know when it was last replaced, it would be a good idea to get a new one regardless.

    To test it, get the motor to operating temp and try to stop the fan with a rolled up newspaper. If the fan comes to a stop easily, it's on it's way out. If it slaps its way through the paper, it's good.

    Also, you can push in the A/C button (blue snowflake) to kick on your electric fan at will. Your blower motor does NOT have to be on for this to work.
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    • Stanley Rockafella
      R3V Elite
      • Aug 2011
      • 4056

      #3
      Originally posted by EatsHondas
      Also, you can push in the A/C button (blue snowflake) to kick on your electric fan at will. Your blower motor does NOT have to be on for this to work.
      Yeah, I've been doing that recently (and it does start that electric motor), but it also runs the a/c which just creates more heat and strain on the engine.
      If it's got tits or tires, it's gonna cost ya!

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      • Stanley Rockafella
        R3V Elite
        • Aug 2011
        • 4056

        #4
        took your advice on the way home. I left the ac on after I exited the freeway, and even tho the ac wasnt' as cold as when driving at higher speeds, the engine was actually running cooler than b4!!

        thanks :)
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        • Kozworth
          E30 Fanatic
          • May 2011
          • 1339

          #5
          Check the clutch for any leakage. It's a viscous coupling. Basically, its a fluid that allows adequit rad cooling, but when spinning the clutch "disengages". By this I mean the fluid thinS, and there is a slip in a sense from the engine speed (at lower rpm, the fluid locks the fan closer to 1:1 but when it heats up from spinning quicker, it slips so the fan isn't engaged completely, since there is more airflow and this prevents over cooling). If it was stuck or seized, it would almost sound like an airplane taking off, as it keeps getting louder with speed.

          What I would do is spin the fan by hand with the car off. If it spins freely, I'd say she's shot. If you spin and it does about 1/4 to 1/2 turn, i would consider other cooling options.

          Double check coolant level, coolant mixture, and heater function. Could be a sticky Tstat that when running gets enough air flow to run normally but at idle runs a bit hot.

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          • Northern
            R3V Elite
            • Nov 2010
            • 5038

            #6
            stick a newspaper in the fan. If your flimsy newspaper stops the fan, the clutch is toast.
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            • Stanley Rockafella
              R3V Elite
              • Aug 2011
              • 4056

              #7
              I agree, I think it's a lack of air movement that's causing the issues/ Gotta be that fan clutch!

              thanks again :)
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              • fudge_sta
                Noobie
                • Apr 2013
                • 5

                #8
                Mine seems to be doing the total opposite and seems to be always on from the moment car is on its spinning and engine never warms up to optimum temp. Also at around 4thousand rpm the fan belt screeches slightly. The thing i hate the most is its always wooshing under acceleration. My thoughts are its putting to much load onto the belt maybe?. Any ideas guys?

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                • dogsbark26
                  E30 Addict
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 533

                  #9
                  Welcome to the forum fudge_sta.

                  Originally posted by fudge_sta
                  Mine seems to be doing the total opposite and seems to be always on from the moment car is on its spinning and engine never warms up to optimum temp. Also at around 4thousand rpm the fan belt screeches slightly. The thing i hate the most is its always wooshing under acceleration. My thoughts are its putting to much load onto the belt maybe?. Any ideas guys?

                  Did you read Kozworth's post # 5 in this thread?

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                  • fudge_sta
                    Noobie
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 5

                    #10
                    Originally posted by dogsbark26
                    Welcome to the forum fudge_sta.




                    Did you read Kozworth's post # 5 in this thread?
                    From what i understand it may me stuck according to my symptoms, so i presume it will need changing?

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                    • dogsbark26
                      E30 Addict
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 533

                      #11
                      Did you try the tests in this thread?

                      Spin by hand with engine off? Stop with rolled newspaper with engine idling?

                      Results?

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                      • fudge_sta
                        Noobie
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 5

                        #12
                        So the verdict is i think the clutch fan is shot. It does not move at all with force while motor is off and only gets louder with speed. Haven't bothered with the newspaper test as there is no point if it doesn't move at all while off. Anybody recommend a good make replacement as this current one has only lasted 2 years. Thanks

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                        • dogsbark26
                          E30 Addict
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 533

                          #13
                          Really? Only two years? I'm sure mine is over twenty! I have heard that they must be kept horizontal / upright or the viscous fluid gets screwed. Was this one new or used?

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                          • fudge_sta
                            Noobie
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 5

                            #14
                            Was new as it came with the car when i purchased it, in a new box, although it was a make iv never heard of.

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                            • jeffnhiscars
                              R3V OG
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 6010

                              #15
                              OE fan clutches are either Sachs or Behr and they ONLY have value at idle so if you never come to a stop you don't need one :)
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