Elring Upper Gasket Set, what is included?

[Overlord475]

Looking at getting the Elring upper gasket set from Pelican:

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=11-12-9-059-240-M30&catalog_description=&Head%2520Gasket%2520Set%252C%2520%2533%2532%2535i%252Fis%252Fic%252Fix%2520%2528%2531%2539%2538%2537%252D%2539%2531%2529%2520%2520

Does any one have a list of what all is included with PN? Can't find this listed out anywhere. I inevitably will get the set and not know what some of the gaskets are for. Would be helpful to have a breakdown list.

Thanks

[SkiFree]

Comes with every gasket in the engine north of the head head gasket. If you're looking for the individual pieces try compiling your own list via realoem

[KHTRNAK]

I just got my elring head gasket kit from pelican and it looked like it came with everything the reinz kit comes with.

[ForcedFirebird]

Comes with every gasket in the engine north of the head head gasket. If you're looking for the individual pieces try compiling your own list via realoem

Except the throttle body gasket ;)

Have no idea why neither company includes them.

On a side note, we usually purchase the Elring kit and use at least a Goetz head gasket (preferably OEM BMW). They are better then the Elring and far superior to the VR.

[Overlord475]

Good deal

I already have a Goetz HG

[jeffnhiscars]

I got an Elring HG from my machinist who happens do to all the head work for the local dealer and I was under the impression that Elring was one of the OE suppliers.

[Hellspeaker]

I am getting ready to do a head gasket as well, are the elring head gaskets really that crappy? Lol. I don't mind spending the little extra cash to know its going to be good to me.

[Hellspeaker]

Any particular head bolts I should be ordering? Just the DD/weekend warrior so no need for ARPs.

[jeffnhiscars]

I dont think anyone said the elring hg was "crappy"...lol

[ForcedFirebird]

I dont think anyone said the elring hg was "crappy"...lol

It's marginally better than the VR.

[ForcedFirebird]

I got an Elring HG from my machinist who happens do to all the head work for the local dealer and I was under the impression that Elring was one of the OE suppliers.

Wrong wrong wrong.

Did I mention wrong?

The OEM is better then the Goetz, Goetz are superior to the VR or Elring. Here you can see Elring on bottom. Note the oil drain and head bolt share a passage (Elring has a metal "fire ring" around them), and the Elring has much thicker silicone line vs VR. Middle is VR, very thin silicone and no metal ring (still shares oil/bolt passage). Top is Goetz. This is the closest to OEM BMW with the very thick silicone and separated passages. The OEM BMW gasket has a black silicone seal in addition to the red, also separating the passages. So, again in order of best to worst OEM BMW > Goetz > Elring (Felpro is equivalent) > Victor Reinz




and to furthermore back up my information, see this thread...

http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showpost.php?p=913061&postcount=1

[digger]

i bought a exhaust gasket from BMW and it was elring. so they are an OEM but not necessarily for the HG

[Hellspeaker]

So whats the verdict on the head bolts? The ones i have in my cart of febi head bolts. Are these okay?

[Overlord475]

So whats the verdict on the head bolts? The ones i have in my cart of febi head bolts. Are these okay?

http://www.pelicanparts.com/cgi-bin/smart/more_info.cgi?pn=11-12-1-726-478-M17&catalog_description=&Cylinder%2520Head%2520Bolt%2520Set%2520%2528%2531%2534%2520Bolts%2520Per%2520Set%2529%2520%2533%2532%2535%252Fe%252Fes%252F%2533%2532%2535i%252Fis%252FiC%252FiX%2520%2528%2531%2539%2538%2534%252D%2539%2531%2529%2520%2520%2520%2520

[ForcedFirebird]

i bought a exhaust gasket from BMW and it was elring. so they are an OEM but not necessarily for the HG

I purchased several OEM gasket directly from BMW USA, they all looked like the ones in the e30tech link. A lot of dealers will pass the aftermarket as OEM - locals have even gotten the Goetz gaskets as "OEM" as most dealers will carry the aftermarket brands.