ving never nodded a m20 I don't know were to start. Intake, chip and all that crap I think is probably not worth the money. I know FI is a good option but does anyone make a bolt on kit? Anyways I have a customer me a very nice 2002 that has a m20 in it that they track with. She is wanting some more power out of it. She was thinking stoker kit. I wouldn't have an issue with FI but then reliability comes into play and I'd want something that she wouldn't have to worry about. Any input would be great. I heard spec e30 guys get quite a bit of hp out of there NA m20s. If I do go stoker it would be with a stroker kit not with just a 2.7 bottom end swap. Would it then in turn need to run a full standalone system?
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if it's a 2002 I don't think a turbo M20 makes sense. a stroker with a decent head build and some RHD ITBs seems like it would be a better fit.
you can run it on the stock computer but you're better off with something aftermarket. in the US, Megasquirt on an M20 has been done a billion times, and there is good support with things like Whodwho's plug and play kits that are designed specifically for the M20.
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Originally posted by nando View Postif it's a 2002 I don't think a turbo M20 makes sense. a stroker with a decent head build and some RHD ITBs seems like it would be a better fit.
you can run it on the stock computer but you're better off with something aftermarket. in the US, Megasquirt on an M20 has been done a billion times, and there is good support with things like Whodwho's plug and play kits that are designed specifically for the M20.
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that's like 2001 tech. I guess it works but that's not what you do if you want to build a custom motor. a stroker doesn't need a bigger FPR anyway.
If you can get it tuned by somebody experienced there's really no reason to stay away from a standalone. once it's set, you don't really have to mess with it. your customer shouldn't have to touch it (and in fact, I would recommend that they don't).
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Originally posted by nando View Postthat's like 2001 tech. I guess it works but that's not what you do if you want to build a custom motor. a stroker doesn't need a bigger FPR anyway.
If you can get it tuned by somebody experienced there's really no reason to stay away from a standalone. once it's set, you don't really have to mess with it. your customer shouldn't have to touch it (and in fact, I would recommend that they don't).
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Do you really live in Wisconsin? I can't understand your English. Even a stroker won't gain you that much power compared to forced induction, and your main argument for forced induction is reliability. Turbo m20s can be very reliable if done correctly.Hank Ahrens
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id rather a nice responsive predictable NA engine in a light car like a 2002 that sees time on the track89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...
new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505
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Originally posted by ahrensNW View PostDo you really live in Wisconsin? I can't understand your English. Even a stroker won't gain you that much power compared to forced induction, and your main argument for forced induction is reliability. Turbo m20s can be very reliable if done correctly.
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Hey I edited this allot because I reread your post
it's really hard to fully understand if you don't slow down and try to figure out what word u are trying to use.
but tell your costumer to not waste money on chips and dips like u said because non of that stuff is really going to do anything within reason.
3.0. ITB. Headers. Custom intake. 10:1. race only cam that doesn't run right.
Know what I'm saying? Tell her to leave it stock or get a slick nitrous system.Last edited by LowR3V'in; 10-13-2015, 07:05 PM.
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Nope, it really sounds like you are fresh off the boat. Now that your posts have been edited it is much more comprehensible.
Anyways, since a turbo is off the table a stroker build is really your best option. However, the ceiling for a stroked m20 is rather low.Hank Ahrens
1984 Alpine Coupe
1978 911sc
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You might want to check out the Miller "Pro Street Induction Kit". It is a 'system' of the common m20 bolt-ons. I have no personal experience with it, but if it was way off its claims, I would have expected to see some evidence on this forum. Potentially 1/3 of the gains of a full-tilt stroker at 1/10 of the price.
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Originally posted by redlightpete View PostYou might want to check out the Miller "Pro Street Induction Kit". It is a 'system' of the common m20 bolt-ons. I have no personal experience with it, but if it was way off its claims, I would have expected to see some evidence on this forum. Potentially 1/3 of the gains of a full-tilt stroker at 1/10 of the price.89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...
new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505
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