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  • Dyno4mance
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2008
    • 345

    #1

    What Head Gasket?

    I am nearing completion of a high compression (11:1) head build and I am wondering what head gasket would be the best to use..
    I have ARP head studs and was planning on a HG that was the stock thickness or close to it so I can maintain good quench

    Metric Mechanic sell a modified water passage one that apparently stops the head cracking on #5 Cam tower it is quite pricey at @$200.00...does anyone know if the gasket they sell is a "Multi Layer Steel" or just a modified stocker?...and if it is any good

    Also they have a modified spray bar with smaller diameter oil passages to stop too much oil getting to the head...Is this piece worth the money?
    Thanks in advance...


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  • Dyno4mance
    Grease Monkey
    • Feb 2008
    • 345

    #2
    Wow....has no one tried the Metric Mechanic HG?
    19 vews and no replies....


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    • guibo09
      E30 Modder
      • Dec 2008
      • 834

      #3
      im curious to where this goes to
      90 E30 325i

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      • Dyno4mance
        Grease Monkey
        • Feb 2008
        • 345

        #4
        ^^^^^^apparently no where....


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        • Dyno4mance
          Grease Monkey
          • Feb 2008
          • 345

          #5
          53 views!!!and not even a snide remark....
          Does anyone on this site even own an e30?:mrgreen::mrgreen::giggle:


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          • nando
            Moderator
            • Nov 2003
            • 34827

            #6
            stock HG will be just fine. Turbo guys use them all the time with ARP studs, 11:1 CR is nothing in comparison. :)
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            • akorcovelos
              E30 Enthusiast
              • Dec 2006
              • 1149

              #7
              If you want peice of mind get the head welded, costs about the same as the MM HG. Otherwise stock equipment is fine for any N/A M20.

              2012 MCSCC/NSSCC CP class champ
              HSAX Instructor

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              • guibo09
                E30 Modder
                • Dec 2008
                • 834

                #8
                if stock equipment is fine on an N/A m20, why do so many N/A m20's crack their heads?
                90 E30 325i

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                • nando
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 34827

                  #9
                  because BMW coolant systems are picky and people overheat them. that has little to do with high CR or RPMs..
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                  • guibo09
                    E30 Modder
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 834

                    #10
                    Originally posted by nando
                    because BMW coolant systems are picky and people overheat them. that has little to do with high CR or RPMs..

                    so what is the recipe for a crack free head besides running the MM gasket?
                    90 E30 325i

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                    • nando
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 34827

                      #11
                      don't overheat it.

                      the reason people weld the coolant channels isn't to prevent cracking, it's because the head flexes a lot around the huge (and uneccesary) channels which causes the gasket to unseat and eventually blow. Although that could lead to cracking, it's not the main purpose.
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                      • digger
                        R3V Elite
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 5912

                        #12
                        you can make any OEM goetze gasket a MM one with a dremel and 10sec.......all they do is elongate a couple of holes to the "teardrop" shape.
                        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                        • Dyno4mance
                          Grease Monkey
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 345

                          #13
                          So the general consensus is stock will do even on a race engine...?
                          so, I should not even consider the MM, the IE MLS or the Vac race gasket then..?

                          Thanks for the responses...


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                          • nando
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2003
                            • 34827

                            #14
                            I wouldn't even consider an MLS on an N/A engine.

                            plus you have studs - a good quality OEM headgasket and the proper torque on those puppies is all you need. and of course good tuning and proper cooling system maintenance. I'm guessing you're not going to try and use the stock chip/ecu with an 11:1 CR race motor, so no worries about a poor tune causing problems. :)
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                            • Dyno4mance
                              Grease Monkey
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 345

                              #15
                              Originally posted by digger
                              you can make any OEM goetze gasket a MM one with a dremel and 10sec.......all they do is elongate a couple of holes to the "teardrop" shape.
                              That was the answer I was initially looking for, So the mm piece is just made of stock material....?

                              Then because of this modification I would think that logic would suggest welding the head would compound the head cracking problem...No?


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