M20B27 with 173 ecu

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  • 2mAn
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    Originally posted by Georgiyk
    My ecu is tuned and it goes to 6500 rpm maybe a little more what do you think would happen if the 2.7 went to 6500rpm
    You would run an amazing 1/4 time. Please have a friend record a horizontal video.

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  • digger
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    Originally posted by Georgiyk

    Well most of the sensors that were on the motor would connect into the wiring harness so they had to be swapped like the oil level reader, oil pressure sensor and crank shaft poison sensor etc all those sensors are completely different from each other that’s why I had to replace the vibration damper they are different in size
    yeah there are bunch of things that need to be added / swapped to get it to work not directly plug and play

    Originally posted by Georgiyk

    My ecu is tuned and it goes to 6500 rpm maybe a little more what do you think would happen if the 2.7 went to 6500rpm
    high risk of loss of valve control resulting in loft and then valve bounce occurring which has been shown to cause the piston to tag the valves and bend valves because the relationship between valve lift and piston position goes out the window. People usually run the dual springs or at very least the single outer springs (beefier ones from M20B23) even better is the beefy outer springs and the inners which is even more rpm capable than the b25 setup

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  • Georgiyk
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    Originally posted by digger

    so its not a true ETA then, the eta has a different vibration damper and trigger setup so that why people probably said it cant be done. the harness must match the trigger setup. so actually you havent done anything that couldnt be done

    people have been running M20B31 engines for years on 173 ecu
    My ecu is tuned and it goes to 6500 rpm maybe a little more what do you think would happen if the 2.7 went to 6500rpm

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  • Georgiyk
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    Originally posted by digger

    so its not a true ETA then, the eta has a different vibration damper and trigger setup so that why people probably said it cant be done. the harness must match the trigger setup. so actually you havent done anything that couldnt be done

    people have been running M20B31 engines for years on 173 ecu
    Well most of the sensors that were on the motor would connect into the wiring harness so they had to be swapped like the oil level reader, oil pressure sensor and crank shaft poison sensor etc all those sensors are completely different from each other that’s why I had to replace the vibration damper they are different in size

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  • digger
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    Originally posted by Georgiyk

    It’s a b25 I swapped basically everything to b25 only the head and block is a b27
    so its not a true ETA then, the eta has a different vibration damper and trigger setup so that why people probably said it cant be done. the harness must match the trigger setup. so actually you havent done anything that couldnt be done

    people have been running M20B31 engines for years on 173 ecu

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  • Georgiyk
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    Originally posted by digger
    so it is the SETA or B25 vibration damper on the front? the one with lots of teeth on it?
    It’s a b25 I swapped basically everything to b25 only the head and block is a b27

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  • digger
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    so it is the SETA or B25 vibration damper on the front? the one with lots of teeth on it?

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  • Georgiyk
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    Originally posted by digger

    which crank trigger are you using?
    B25 crank trigger

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  • digger
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    Originally posted by Georgiyk

    What do you mean b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper?
    which crank trigger are you using?

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  • Georgiyk
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    Originally posted by digger
    i gather you are using the b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper on the front?
    What do you mean b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper?

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  • digger
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    i gather you are using the b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper on the front?

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  • agent
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird

    I just realized you have two threads
    At least one of them was posted in the correct subforum. Now they both are.

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  • Georgiyk
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird

    I just realized you have two threads, and in tho other one you said you swapped the head. That's not quite the same as using m1.3 on a 2.7. The 2.7i you made has been done so many times. I even have dyno results in my m20 dyno thread.
    the motor I put in is all stock with a 200 head. I was saying my next build I want to do the super eta with a 885 head I have a head laying around my garage

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  • ForcedFirebird
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    Originally posted by Georgiyk

    I know the motor will fall on it Face If I get on it and my car was already chipped when I bought it but I did this as a project just to see if the car would even start and I’m probably gonna wanna see how fast the motor will give up. My next build is the 1988 super eta with the 885 head I hand the head in my garage just kinda hard to find the block
    I just realized you have two threads, and in tho other one you said you swapped the head. That's not quite the same as using m1.3 on a 2.7. The 2.7i you made has been done so many times. I even have dyno results in my m20 dyno thread.

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  • Georgiyk
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    Originally posted by ForcedFirebird
    It won't "rip" for long. Even when putting a chip in an eta with only a 5500 rev limiter, the valves lightly kiss the pistons with sustained high revs. The 200 head only came with the outer valve springs, not the inner.

    I have done the same as you in the past, but also used dual 325i valve springs - but - the 200 head falls on it's face at about 5000rpm, so after that it's just making noise.
    I know the motor will fall on it Face If I get on it and my car was already chipped when I bought it but I did this as a project just to see if the car would even start and I’m probably gonna wanna see how fast the motor will give up. My next build is the 1988 super eta with the 885 head I have the head in my garage just kinda hard to find the block
    Last edited by Georgiyk; 12-17-2019, 10:49 AM.

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