M20B27 with 173 ecu

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  • digger
    R3V Elite
    • Nov 2005
    • 5964

    #16
    i gather you are using the b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper on the front?
    89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

    new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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    • Georgiyk
      Noobie
      • Dec 2019
      • 18

      #17
      Originally posted by digger
      i gather you are using the b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper on the front?
      What do you mean b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper?

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      • digger
        R3V Elite
        • Nov 2005
        • 5964

        #18
        Originally posted by Georgiyk

        What do you mean b25 60-2 toothed vibration damper?
        which crank trigger are you using?
        89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

        new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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        • Georgiyk
          Noobie
          • Dec 2019
          • 18

          #19
          Originally posted by digger

          which crank trigger are you using?
          B25 crank trigger

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          • digger
            R3V Elite
            • Nov 2005
            • 5964

            #20
            so it is the SETA or B25 vibration damper on the front? the one with lots of teeth on it?
            89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

            new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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            • Georgiyk
              Noobie
              • Dec 2019
              • 18

              #21
              Originally posted by digger
              so it is the SETA or B25 vibration damper on the front? the one with lots of teeth on it?
              It’s a b25 I swapped basically everything to b25 only the head and block is a b27

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              • digger
                R3V Elite
                • Nov 2005
                • 5964

                #22
                Originally posted by Georgiyk

                It’s a b25 I swapped basically everything to b25 only the head and block is a b27
                so its not a true ETA then, the eta has a different vibration damper and trigger setup so that why people probably said it cant be done. the harness must match the trigger setup. so actually you havent done anything that couldnt be done

                people have been running M20B31 engines for years on 173 ecu
                89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                • Georgiyk
                  Noobie
                  • Dec 2019
                  • 18

                  #23
                  Originally posted by digger

                  so its not a true ETA then, the eta has a different vibration damper and trigger setup so that why people probably said it cant be done. the harness must match the trigger setup. so actually you havent done anything that couldnt be done

                  people have been running M20B31 engines for years on 173 ecu
                  Well most of the sensors that were on the motor would connect into the wiring harness so they had to be swapped like the oil level reader, oil pressure sensor and crank shaft poison sensor etc all those sensors are completely different from each other that’s why I had to replace the vibration damper they are different in size

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                  • Georgiyk
                    Noobie
                    • Dec 2019
                    • 18

                    #24
                    Originally posted by digger

                    so its not a true ETA then, the eta has a different vibration damper and trigger setup so that why people probably said it cant be done. the harness must match the trigger setup. so actually you havent done anything that couldnt be done

                    people have been running M20B31 engines for years on 173 ecu
                    My ecu is tuned and it goes to 6500 rpm maybe a little more what do you think would happen if the 2.7 went to 6500rpm

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                    • digger
                      R3V Elite
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 5964

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Georgiyk

                      Well most of the sensors that were on the motor would connect into the wiring harness so they had to be swapped like the oil level reader, oil pressure sensor and crank shaft poison sensor etc all those sensors are completely different from each other that’s why I had to replace the vibration damper they are different in size
                      yeah there are bunch of things that need to be added / swapped to get it to work not directly plug and play

                      Originally posted by Georgiyk

                      My ecu is tuned and it goes to 6500 rpm maybe a little more what do you think would happen if the 2.7 went to 6500rpm
                      high risk of loss of valve control resulting in loft and then valve bounce occurring which has been shown to cause the piston to tag the valves and bend valves because the relationship between valve lift and piston position goes out the window. People usually run the dual springs or at very least the single outer springs (beefier ones from M20B23) even better is the beefy outer springs and the inners which is even more rpm capable than the b25 setup
                      89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

                      new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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                      • 2mAn
                        SeƱior Mod
                        • Aug 2010
                        • 20215

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Georgiyk
                        My ecu is tuned and it goes to 6500 rpm maybe a little more what do you think would happen if the 2.7 went to 6500rpm
                        You would run an amazing 1/4 time. Please have a friend record a horizontal video.
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                        • roguetoaster
                          R3V OG
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 7774

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Georgiyk

                          My ecu is tuned and it goes to 6500 rpm maybe a little more
                          Ha, no, this didn't happen under load with just throttle input.

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                          • Georgiyk
                            Noobie
                            • Dec 2019
                            • 18

                            #28
                            Originally posted by digger

                            yeah there are bunch of things that need to be added / swapped to get it to work not directly plug and play



                            high risk of loss of valve control resulting in loft and then valve bounce occurring which has been shown to cause the piston to tag the valves and bend valves because the relationship between valve lift and piston position goes out the window. People usually run the dual springs or at very least the single outer springs (beefier ones from M20B23) even better is the beefy outer springs and the inners which is even more rpm capable than the b25 setup
                            So is there another head that’s identical to the 200 head that can be swapped out or how does it work do you just replace springs or what.

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                            • Georgiyk
                              Noobie
                              • Dec 2019
                              • 18

                              #29
                              Originally posted by roguetoaster

                              Ha, no, this didn't happen under load with just throttle input.
                              What do you mean

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                              • Georgiyk
                                Noobie
                                • Dec 2019
                                • 18

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 2mAn
                                You would run an amazing 1/4 time. Please have a friend record a horizontal video.
                                Bro shut up no one cares about your 1/4 mile runs

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