Marble noise at 3k?

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  • glucklich21
    E30 Mastermind
    • Apr 2010
    • 1912

    #1

    Marble noise at 3k?

    Any ideas of what could cause a marble sounding noise at 3k? My valvetrain doesn't make a sound anywhere else in the RPM range. The teeth are still perfectly square, all my bolts are tight, and there's no plastic remnants in the pan. Maybe the tensioner?
  • Dj Buttchug
    R3V OG
    • Jun 2010
    • 7624

    #2
    may be timing case related? what is a marble noise?

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    • tinkerputzer
      E30 Addict
      • Jun 2008
      • 508

      #3
      Could be knock. Sound like bb's rattling around in a glass jar? Is it 3k at full load in a higher gear?

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      • M-technik-3
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        • Oct 2003
        • 18946

        #4
        Chain loose? Maybe tensioner is shot.
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        • Andy.B
          E30 Mastermind
          • Sep 2011
          • 1650

          #5
          Originally posted by tinkerputzer
          Could be knock. Sound like bb's rattling around in a glass jar? Is it 3k at full load in a higher gear?
          This was my first thought as well.

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          • bmwman91
            No R3VLimiter
            • Oct 2004
            • 3128

            #6
            The little idler sprocket for the timing chain could be on its way out, or maybe the top bolt of the driver's side chain guide rail is stripped.

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            • glucklich21
              E30 Mastermind
              • Apr 2010
              • 1912

              #7
              Originally posted by tinkerputzer
              Could be knock. Sound like bb's rattling around in a glass jar? Is it 3k at full load in a higher gear?
              3k in 5th going down the highway, so yes?

              Originally posted by bmwman91
              The little idler sprocket for the timing chain could be on its way out, or maybe the top bolt of the driver's side chain guide rail is stripped.
              Maybe. I was hoping I wouldn't have to open up the case. :(

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              • tinkerputzer
                E30 Addict
                • Jun 2008
                • 508

                #8
                3k in 5th going down the highway, so yes?
                Full load = loud pedal floored

                Just cruising wouldn't cause knock.

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                • Vtec?lol
                  No R3VLimiter
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 3278

                  #9
                  You sir need a new chain. I had the same exact issue.
                  When I compared the new to old I discovered the actual links worn allowing play in all directions. I'm assuming it slapping around as it goes down the guide rail.

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                  • glucklich21
                    E30 Mastermind
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1912

                    #10
                    After driving around on some smooth quiet roads (seriously a needle in a haystack down here) I'm hearing definite chain noise below 3k. Time for an engine swap haha!

                    Between this and the super loud input shaft bearing on the G240, it's time for something bigger.

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                    • Vtec?lol
                      No R3VLimiter
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 3278

                      #11
                      I can haz old M42?

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                      • M3Philipp
                        Wrencher
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 278

                        #12
                        The M42 seems to not run smooth at kinda exactly 3000 RPM.
                        Just to mention.
                        With my M42 and many miles on the engine, I could easily hear that 3000RPM just wasnt healthy for it, while 2900 and 3100 are fine again.
                        Even on a complete rebuild M42 now, since I knew, I can still here the difference at exactly 3000RPM.
                        If you drive on the highway for a longer distance, I would also avoid 3000RPM, and rather go a bit faster or a bit slower.
                        But I dont know if its just my engine and others are fine...?

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                        • bmwman91
                          No R3VLimiter
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 3128

                          #13
                          If you are having bad noises and vibration at 3000rpm, you need to open up the timing covers and inspect things.

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