High pressure fuel lines for fuel feed and return?

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  • jaredmac11
    Wrencher
    • Sep 2007
    • 253

    #1

    High pressure fuel lines for fuel feed and return?

    I replaced all the hoses under the intake including the two fuel hoses that are used to connect the metal fuel lines to the fuel rail. The 1-3" hoses. I went to the auto parts store and got fuel grade hose but im not 100% sure its HIGH PRESSURE fuel hose. Is this critical?

    Should I tear off the intake manifold and replace, or will standard fuel hoses work?

    Hoping someone can chime in and say they used the standard fuel hoses for a few years and no car fires..yet...
  • roguetoaster
    R3V OG
    • Jan 2012
    • 7760

    #2
    I have never used standard pressure lines in the engine bay, but in a pinch I used some at the fuel filter and forgot about it for a couple of years until I noticed MPGs going way down/a slight fuel smell. It turned out to be leaking out of a pin hole or three, and the condition of the tubing was horrible.

    Never again.

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    • e30sh
      Mod Crazy
      • Apr 2015
      • 618

      #3
      You can use the cheap stuff on the low pressure return side or in a pinch but I'd do what roguetoaster said, buy the good stuff. It's all 8x13 and ~$10 a meter.

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      • jaredmac11
        Wrencher
        • Sep 2007
        • 253

        #4
        Sounds good. Looks like I'm taking off the intake again...

        Do you have to replace paper gaskets after you torque em down ? I haven't cranked the engine yet and this is a full rebuild, all new everything

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        • roguetoaster
          R3V OG
          • Jan 2012
          • 7760

          #5
          The intake gaskets can typically be reused.

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          • george graves
            I waste 90% of my day here and all I got was this stupid title
            • Oct 2003
            • 19986

            #6
            It would be great if someone could suggest an aftermarket hose that isn't ungodly expensive??? Cause I usually just get it from the dealer.

            But I agree - don't use the autozone/pepboys/kragen stuff, even if it's marked as high pressure lines.
            Originally posted by Matt-B
            hey does anyone know anyone who gets upset and makes electronics?

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            • digger
              R3V Elite
              • Nov 2005
              • 5933

              #7
              should be able to change fuel lines without removing intake id think
              89 E30 325is Lachs Silber - currently M20B31, M20B33 in the works, stroked to the hilt...

              new build thread http://www.r3vlimited.com/board/showthread.php?t=317505

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              • Andre3127
                Wrencher
                • Dec 2017
                • 291

                #8
                5/16" ID fuel hose also works. I just replaced my rubber lines two days ago. That hose under the booster is a real pain to loosen.

                Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk
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                • jaredmac11
                  Wrencher
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 253

                  #9
                  Originally posted by digger
                  should be able to change fuel lines without removing intake id think
                  These are the tiny little lines that go from the fuel rail to the metal fuel lines. I'll take a look but I thought its pretty tight.


                  Originally posted by Andre3127
                  5/16" ID fuel hose also works. I just replaced my rubber lines two days ago. That hose under the booster is a real pain to loosen.

                  Sent from my XT1053 using Tapatalk
                  Yea 5/16" is what I got. It comes out to be 7.9mm so its just a slightly snugger fit, which is better than being larger.

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                  • jaredmac11
                    Wrencher
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 253

                    #10
                    Has anyone used neoprene or nylon fuel lines? I feel like back in the 90s there was less ethanol in gas so maybe rubber isnt the best go-to anymore?

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                    • e30sh
                      Mod Crazy
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 618

                      #11
                      Originally posted by george graves
                      It would be great if someone could suggest an aftermarket hose that isn't ungodly expensive??? Cause I usually just get it from the dealer.

                      But I agree - don't use the autozone/pepboys/kragen stuff, even if it's marked as high pressure lines.
                      I've always used CRP / Rein now. I get it from my local German repair shop He's always charged me $10/meter. ECS is $8.89 / meter if you are not in a hurry. BMW is now $32.

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                      • jaredmac11
                        Wrencher
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 253

                        #12
                        Originally posted by e30sh
                        I've always used CRP / Rein now. I get it from my local German repair shop He's always charged me $10/meter. ECS is $8.89 / meter if you are not in a hurry. BMW is now $32.
                        Agreed.
                        Im going to get some 225 psi from NAPA. Should be good for the first crank.

                        CRP is the OE provider for Continental, which should be your go to for anything rubber.

                        You dont have to go BMW.

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                        • reelizmpro
                          R3V OG
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 9454

                          #13
                          I just replaced 5 year old (5k miles) CRP lines on my turbo M20 after a rupture. The supply hose was cracking and was spewing fuel after start up. Thank goodness it didn't happen while driving. I'm sure the heat from the turbo didn't help but very surprised they only lasted a short time. I replaced both lines with 5/16" Gates Barricade high pressure EFI hose.
                          "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                          85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                          88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                          89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                          91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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                          • roguetoaster
                            R3V OG
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 7760

                            #14
                            My recollection is that one component of the CRP line as originally fitted to E30s was changed perhaps 10 years ago to meet some type of eco friendly spec, and I'd bet that the change to less toxic barrier reinforcement has led directly to early failures. There's also a temp spec listed if you look up the codes on the CRP line, and I'd bet it's not turbo friendly.

                            Can also second having gone to Gates Barricade, but there do appear to be lots of fake Gates fuel hoses out there, so be cautious.

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                            • reelizmpro
                              R3V OG
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 9454

                              #15
                              Knock off fuel hoses? oh wow, that's crazy and very dangerous.
                              "I'd probably take the E30 M3 in this case just because I love that little car, and how tanky that inline 6 is." - thecj

                              85 323i M TECH 1 S52 - ALPINEWEISS/SCHWARZE
                              88 M3 - LACHSSILBER/SCHWARZE
                              89 M3 - ALPINEWEISS II/M TECH CLOTH-ALCANTARA
                              91 M TECHNIC CABRIO TURBO - MACAOBLAU/M TECH CLOTH-LEATHER

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